<p>Hey everyone, is that possible to get an accountancy major and a mathematics major in four years? How many credits should I get for it? Are there really huge differences for general courses b/w different colleges such as BUS and LAS?</p>
<p>If you are admitted to the business school it is possible to get a double major in math. If you are instead admitted to LAS for math, it is not possible to get another major in business. The business college does not accept double majors from other colleges. LAS does. To do a double major you would usually apply for the second one after you have been in college for over a year for beginning of junior year. You have to be accepted by the second college. The gen ed courses you can take are eseentially the same for all colleges. Nevertheless completing two majors in four years is usually a pipe dream unless you come in with a lot of AP credits. You have to meet all the requirements of both colleges and a major takes a lot of hours. Realistically what you would be doing is adding 20 to 30 credit hourts to a normal four year schedule and it takes 4 1/2 to 5 years for most.</p>
<p>Till now, I have 5 APs which will count around 27 credits. I’m now being accepted by BUS and does that mean I only need to add 20 to 30 credits which math major need? Besides, I have a 5 on Calc BC. Can I take honor math 241 this year which needs department approvement and 5 on Calc BC?</p>
<p>Believe or not, regardless of whether you have AP credit for Calc BC, you still have to take the ALECKS test for placement in math. Whether you can then take honors depends on whether you have been admitted as an honor student (James Scholar, business or campus) and then get department permission. You should not assume that honors calc will be any different than regular and you should not be assuming “honors” clac is some necessity in your life.</p>
<p>As to what you will need for a double major, you really need to start your own research of information readily available on UIUC’s site which gives gen ed requirements, major requirements, college requirements. Essentially for math you will need at least 27 hours of math beyond calc I and II. LAS has its own gen ed requirement of 30 hours (in other words greater than the university requirement and the business requirement). Businees, of course, has its business course requirements beyond the courses for a major in accounting. Nevertheless, what you will find is that things that meet gen ed requirements in LAS will also do so in business, and a number of your math courses may serve as additonal electives in the business school so you can get a number of overlaps that work toward both degrees. You just have to do your research because it is too varied and complex to try to lay it all out in a post, but, with proper planning, you can probably complete both majors with 20 or a little more total hours beyond the usual 124 required for a business degree.</p>
<p>My son has been admitted to CS and wants to do a double major in Comp Eng. He already has a lot of credits from AP and college level classes:</p>
<p>AP Subject (Score): Physics C-mech (5), Physics C-E&M (5), Chemistry (5), Biology (4), Calculus BC (5), Eng Literature (5), Eng Lang (5), US Govt & Pol (5), US History (5), World History (5), Statistics (5), Spanish Lang (5), French Lang (5)</p>
<p>College Credit (NC State Univ): MA242 (Calculus III), CSC116 (per u.select this is equivalent to a CS1** course; not sure what this means?), CSC226 (per u.select this is equiv to CS173), COM110 (public speaking; not sure if this will provide credit for anything)</p>
<p>What I want to find out is: (1) What does he need to do to be registered/approved as a double major and (2) how does he go about planning his schedules for his college semesters for both majors (and who are the people he needs to work with) so that he completes the requirements in the most efficient and time-effective manner?</p>
<p>He went to Freshman registration in June and we enquired at the CS department at that time, and they said it was possible to double major (though they didn’t say what needed to be done). Additionally, I am not sure that he got the best advice from the advisors at that time with respect to courses. They told him to sign up for CS173 (which he should have received credit for, see above, but he didn’t know it at the time). So now he is going to most likely have to drop it at the beginning of the semester and take his chances in trying to replace it with the next level course. Also, he is not sure whether he can get credit for CS125 from the CSC116 course that he took at NC State. Again, this was not discussed when he registered, so he is currently signed up for CS125.</p>
<p>Any advice/help you can provide would be much appreciated.</p>
<p>Just in case I have not used the standard abbreviation in my post above, Comp Eng = Computer engineering (in the ECE department). CS is of course computer science.</p>
<p>I’m surprised that you stated that he was advised incorrectly, because that’s the “Gold Standard” that I was going to suggest that you contact. I still am. If you disagree with the advising, just state your concerns. Look over the requirements for both degrees, so you’re up to speed on the overlap, if any, from them. Then send them an email, or make another appointment to discuss things in person. They won’t have any problem with that.</p>
<p>But I have to say that getting a degree in engineering (CS, even though it’s in LAS, is for all intents and purposes, part of the engineering college) is quite an accomplishment in and of itself. I’m sure doing a double major is doable, given the amount of AP and college credit your son already has, but it will still be a daunting task, and then he’ll have two undergrad degrees. Have you considered a BS in CS, and then a Masters in CE? That would be much more impressive to employers, if that is his goal after college.</p>
<p>I was not suggesting that their advising is bad in general. I just think that whoever advised him on that day made a mistake. There was some confusion about who my son’s “advisor” would be (apparently the person who was supposed to advise him was not there or not available, so someone else took his place). That could have possibly been the reason why the mistake occurred. Unfortunately, at that time, we were not as knowledgeable about his course options as we should have been (20/20 hindsight).</p>
<p>About your second suggestion, my son is interested in going into graduate studies, but he wants to do so in CS, so getting a BS in CS and an MS in CompE is not of interest to him.</p>
<p>To mother of two:</p>
<p>Don’t be embarrassed to suggest that their advising is bad; in fact, for incoming freshmen, it is awful. They rush you through a 10 minute talk with some guy who may not even be in CS, and even if he’s a professor, he or she might still be clueless.</p>
<p>Professors, unless they are the head of undergraduate advising in their department, know next to nothing about requirements. I’m absolutely serious, I’m not being bitter or exaggerating. You can ask your given advisor for career advice, but he’s so clueless half the time that he won’t even tell you about DARS… mine never did. He might even make ridiculous suggestions about what courses to take. After talking to my assigned advisor freshman year I never spoke to him again until this year so he could sign off on my academic program plan for senior year.</p>
<p>I dealt solely with Engineering Hall in person, or the undergraduate advisor for my department and his secretary.</p>
<p>That being said, here answers to your questions.</p>
<p>First, CS1*** means he won’t get anything but general hours for that. It is not equivalent to anything at UIUC as far as the electronic system is concerned.</p>
<p>Second, if u select tells you he has credit for 173, then he’s probably got it.</p>
<p>Third, public speaking may just add more general hours to his curriculum but not actually take anything out of it.</p>
<p>Here is what your son needs to do.</p>
<p>First, he needs to generate a DARS audit. [U</a> of I Records: DARS Audits](<a href=“http://registrar.illinois.edu/dars/index.html]U”>http://registrar.illinois.edu/dars/index.html)</p>
<p>This will tell him what courses he must take to fulfill his requirements for CS. It will also show what has transferred from APs and other colleges.</p>
<p>Second, drop 173 and take the next course in line, I think it’s 273 or 373.</p>
<p>Third, go to Engineering Hall, not the CS department, and go to the second floor main room. Talk to the receptionist and ask to speak to someone about checking which courses have transferred, and if maybe some of those CS1** can be made to count towards something. Your son should bring syllabi of CS1** and the communications course. Also, he will take care of setting up a double major at the engineering department. </p>
<p>There is a lady there at Engineering Hall whose job it is to deal with transfer credit. She’s an expert in that field, and she’ll also point him in the right direction for double majoring. Make sure your son has the lady actually check the courses instead of telling him where to look online. Also, make sure he mentions that he heard you can petition to have a course count towards some requirement, but wants to know how. She’ll tell him if that is possible with CS1** or the communications course.</p>
<p>Don’t be surprised if the advisor at Engineering Hall tells him to wait a semester or freshman year before deciding to double major. That would be my advice as well.</p>
<p>Nobody but students and his brain will help him find the optimum way to get a double CS and Comp Eng. major. He must read the requirements for graduation, use Scheedule, and his judgement to figure out a way to schedule courses and so forth. </p>
<p>Finally, he should not take honors courses, they’re a waste of his time.</p>
<p>My mom never did this stuff for me at all. She just said not to take no for an answer from any bureaucrat ever; and that if the door is locked “climb through the window.” Make sure you don’t coddle the boy too much; then again, he sounds like a genius so whatever happens he’ll probably be fine.</p>
<p>NAFTA,</p>
<p>Thank you very much for your detailed and useful advice. </p>
<p>You mentioned that there was a lady in the engineering hall whose job it is to deal with transfer credit. Do you know what her name is? My son is out-of-state so going in to speak to her is not an option until the semester begins, but he could give her a call before then.</p>
<p>And don’t worry, I don’t plan to coddle my son (well not much, anyway 
But figuring out how to best arrange one’s coursework for a double major is complicated for most; not just a newbie/freshman. And of course it is in my best interest to make sure he does the best he can on this, since we will likely pay more in fees/expenses, etc for any mistakes he makes in this planning, particularly since he is out-of-state.</p>
<p>Hello mum of two; I will visit or call Engineering Hall and ask for her name and number. It will probably be easier to e-mail her; but I’ll ask the lady at the front desk about what works best. Sorry about the late reply, I’ve been busy enjoying my break from work before school starts. I also come from out of state, so I know how you feel.</p>
<p>The phone number for advising at Engineering Hall is found on this webpage.</p>
<p>[Contact</a> Undergraduate Programs | Engineering at Illinois](<a href=“Majors & Minors | The Grainger College of Engineering | UIUC”>Majors & Minors | The Grainger College of Engineering | UIUC)</p>
<p>Ask to speak to someone who can verify what courses have transferred for your son. Call soon, because it will get packed with students asking for advice next week.</p>