<p>Can anyone explain how USNA uses ACT scores compared to SAT scores. Does the academy use the ACT Math score and the ACT English as stand alone scores or do they take the ACT composite score (all 4 sections of the ACT) and divide it by 2 to apply the average to the Math and Verbal on the candidates application package? SAT and how the USNA applies the scoring I understand....ACT - I would appreciate some help understanding how the scores are applied to the candidates application package.</p>
<p>The Admissions Board uses the ACT English score as being comparable to the SAT Critical Reading score. They use the ACT Mathematics score as being comparable to the SAT Math score. The ACT composite score is not used by the academy.</p>
<p>Thanks for the concise reply. Now I can look at the ACT vs SAT conversion tables to determine where my son's scores track.</p>
<p>And unlike most other institutions, the USNA uses the highest scores for English and math from any/all reported exams, i.e. they need not be from the same test sitting.</p>
<p>Someone else will know, but what is the weighting for each? Doesn't the math receive heavier weighting than the English??</p>
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Someone else will know, but what is the weighting for each? Doesn't the math receive heavier weighting than the English??
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<p>USNA is an engineering school which means that the math score will receive more weight than the verbal score. How much is a well kept secret.</p>
<p>will they combine tests? i did better on the math on the SAT, but better in reading on the ACT</p>
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will they combine tests? i did better on the math on the SAT, but better in reading on the ACT
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<p>I believe that they do pick the highest score from any of the standardized collge entrance exams. But don't quote me on that, it may have changed from the past.</p>
<p>No, they will not mix ACT results with SAT scores.</p>
<p>Whistle Pig</p>
<p>Are you certain they will not mix the scores from the two test? I have been told that they do, but I am not sure of the source. </p>
<p>Does anyone know if there is a limit as to how many times a candidate can take and submit scores for the SAT or ACT? One person I spoke with thought that if you take 5 exams the USNA takes the results of the 5th exam .... end of story. I have my doubts but I can not find anything about it. Any info would be appreciated.</p>
<p>USNA converts the ACT score into an SAT score...so I think the answer is yes, if you score higher on the ACT English than SAT Critical Thinking, but scored higher on the SAT Math vice ACT Math, then they count the ACT English and SAT Math.</p>
<p>Students may take as many times as possible prior to the deadline for apps. Jan for SAT, Feb forACT ... or visa versa.</p>
<p>I do not believe they'll combine the SAT and ACT scores, but not certain. I'm pleased to be corrected though. It would seem they should since they don't seem to care about combined or composite scores, only English/CR and math.</p>
<p>However, and I can't remember this being addressed on the forum ... the Congressional Guidelines indicate that countable scores for USNA must be from an exam taken AFTER December of the 11th gradeyear. Anyone know about this? </p>
<p>On the USNA online application, they list them all, regardless of the dates they've been taken.</p>
<p>I'm confident the USNA takes the highest scores, regardless of how many times one has taken the exams, or when ... with the possible exception noted 2 paras above.</p>
<p>I think I can confirm that they convert the ACT scores to SAT. I just went through this with my son. He scored higher in the math on the ACT than he did on the SAT, so they are using his ACT score, but they still encouraged him to retake the SAT.</p>
<p>Were they saying "retake the SAT" specifically? Or was it meant as "retake the SAT or ACT."</p>
<p>Yes, I'm sure they convert the ACT into SAT language/score ... but the question remains: Will they take highest scores from distinctly separate testings of ACT and/or SAT?</p>
<p>Somewhere, I recall reading, hearing that they would NOT use highest parts for and applicant with one being an SAT score and the other an ACT. </p>
<p>I know this is the case at the USCGA. They will only use one of the tests or the other, not both, although you can have separate testing dates.</p>
<p>He scored 550 on his first SAT test so the coach told him to retake it so he'll be retaking it in October. In the meantime, we realized that they did not have his first ACT score on file in which he had a 26 in math. Coach said that converts to a 600 in the SAT and he was happy with it, but to go ahead and retake it anyway. So I gather from that they would take the best from either test? :confused:</p>
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However, and I can't remember this being addressed on the forum ... the Congressional Guidelines indicate that countable scores for USNA must be from an exam taken AFTER December of the 11th gradeyear. Anyone know about this?
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<p>That is not correct. My son took the SAT in OCT, NOV, and DEC of his junior year. He has already received an LOA from West Point and the BGO reports that "Junior" is listed as being academically qualified by USNA. The cutoff for the SAT was December 2005 because the test was revamped for the spring of 2005. </p>
<p>Scores from the old test are not comparable to the new test because of the changes in the test. This past year, all universities with the exception of UVA (9% increase) repoted a drop in SAT scores for the class of 2010 compared to previous classes.</p>
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The cutoff for the SAT was December 2005 because the test was revamped for the spring of 2005.
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<p>CORRECTION: This should read December 2004 NOT December 2005.</p>
<p>The following is slightly modified from a research paper written by a former company officer (that you don't have access to):</p>
<p>1) The admissions board takes the best combination of SAT/ACT.</p>
<p>2) Only SAT/ACT tests taken after December of a candidate's junior year will count in the admisisons process.</p>
<p>Edit: Now it is possible they made exceptions because of the new SAT.</p>
<p>Jadler03 is correct on his first point. According to the USNA catalog available at:</p>
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The Naval Academys Admissions Board uses the highest combination of verbal/critical reading and math scores from all SAT or ACT tests taken by a candidate. The writing section should be taken by all candidates. Therefore, candidates will normally enhance their competitiveness simply by taking both the SAT and the ACT more than once.
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<p>Jadler03 is incorrect on his second point. According to the USNA catalog:</p>
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Test results from the December SAT and ACT are the last ones an applicant can use to qualify as a candidate and receive an application for the Naval Academy Class of 2011. ...However, you should be aware that test results from the January 2007 SAT is the latest ones that the Admissions Board will use to evaluate candidates for the Class of 2011.
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<p>The December cutoff for SAT and ACT results is for the last NOT the first test that will be considered by the Admissions Board to qualify a candidate. The rest is self explanatory.</p>
<p>GA,</p>
<p>I think you missed what I was saying...candidates applying for the Class of 2011 are HS seniors, not juniors. What the Academy is saying is that the EARLIEST test that will be accepted for admission is the SAT/ACT AFTER December of the JUNIOR year. As you mentioned, the December SAT/ACT (as a HS senior) is the last possible scores the Academy will take to handout applications (and Jan SAT is last that will be reviewed by the admissions board).</p>
<p>In other words, if there are future candidates on here applying for 2012, don't take any SAT/ACT tests until January, 2007. Otherwise, the Academy won't accept them.</p>
<p>jadler03,</p>
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In other words, if there are future candidates on here applying for 2012, don't take any SAT/ACT tests until January, 2007. Otherwise, the Academy won't accept them.
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<p>It doesn't say that anywhere in the USNA catalog. Also, the Admissions Office has accepted my son's SAT and ACT scores from the fall of his junior year.</p>
<p>From a common-sense point of view, why would the academy restrict when a candidate takes an exam except for the cutoff date?</p>