American Applying for St. Andrews Chances

GPA: 3.7-3.8 UW
SAT: 2300+
ACT: 35
SAT 2: (kinda weak) 750 Math2 750 Bio
APs: Didn’t submit because my school doesn’t let us take that many and they were all irrelevant to my areas of interest

Applied for: Economics+International Relations
Biology+Economics

Experiences Related to Major:
-Interning at the UN Currently
-MUN Awards
-Research at the NIH
-Various Medical ECs
Applying by like January 5th hopefully

@teenagecrime, saying that your 750 SAT subject tests scores are ‘kinda weak’ is just irritating. Those are not weak scores, and you know it.

Moreover, your scores are all well above what St A’s requires, so ‘chancing’ seems like an exercise in either humblebragging or misplaced insecurity.

In one place you say that you have applied and in another you say that you are going to apply in the next few days. If you have not applied yet, I suggest you revisit your ‘why’ essay to cover both a course in the Faculty of Science and the Faculty of Arts is a stretch even for a Scottish uni.

IR is one of the few courses at St A’s that is hard for Americans to get into, simply b/c there are so many applicants. IMO, you are fine for Bio + Econ, but Econ + IR is a tougher call. You have an internship and MUN, but you are applying with no essay-based exams, and what appears to be more of a Bio bent than an IR bent. I suggest reviewing the two courses again- think about what you really want, and focus your ‘why’ essay that way.

@collegemom3717

i didn’t mean for it to come across that way. I attend a magnet high school so those scores are incredibly average

I have not applied yet, but i’d rather be in IR. At my magnet school I focused on life sciences but for college my main focus would be econ but i do not want to do just econ since i feel like that’s really restricting, especially since i’m taking a risk by going overseas…

additionally, i need the chances thread done, since i come from a school where nobody goes abroad. my friends who have gotten in were all from schools that traditionally send kids there and they have numbers to lookat.

The thing about UK universities is that there is much less guesswork (bar Oxbridge/LSE; medicine anywhere; and a handful of super-popular courses - such as IR): if you have the stats you probably have an offer. If you seriously want IR find a way to demonstrate that you can handle essay/reading based work- the stats you are sending in don’t do that- and focus your application on IR. Otherwise, my guess would be that you would get an offer for Bio+Econ but not IR + Econ.

Also, if you are applying to St As, what about adding Edinburgh’s Econ + Politics course, Warwicks Econ, Politics + IR and/or Durham’s PPE or Econ + Politics? You can apply to all of them on the UCAS app- 1 fee, 1 essay, 1 rec, and all of them are great programs (and all except Edinburgh outrank St As for Econ).

@collegemom3717 I take college english/world history courses (like "post-AP) and got a recommendation from one…

I’m actually only doing schools on common app. I believe Warwick and Durham are, so I will look into those. Thank you :slight_smile:

Also, I can list my first and second choice on common app, so i put bio+econ as my second

I was concerned that you had only two SAT2s, but scanning your other trheads 8 see you also took Chemistry - add that to your app as that will help with admission to biology.

What APs did you take that you think aren’t relevant? Anything like history, English, government, or a language could help an IR app, at least if you got a 4 or 5 score. Is your reluctance to report these that you didn’t do as well in these exams, by any chance? If not, include them.

I do have to say that your application loks unfocused, with applying for two combinations of re entirely unrelated subjects. Are you sure you would’nt be more comfortable studying in the US, where you can explore more subjects in your first couple of years?

Trheads 8 = Threads I

@conformist1688 I took hard science and math APs-Physics, Chemistry, calculus

I also self studied like psychology and geo and got 5s

my chem score is not that good…
I am open to the idea of either, because both are fine for my intended career path. I focused my essay on said career plan and why either major would work for it, but why I prefered IR (I prefer verbal discourse over bench-work etc.)

I would include AP exams on your application. It shows that you can handle AP-level work. Your essay should be focused on why you want to study your chosen subject, not the career plan. My daughter got an unconditional offer to St.Andrews this year. Let me know if you have more questions.

@jupiter98 i ultimately wrote about my experiences and how they related to the two subjects…

can you PM me about the scores and whatnot? thanks