<p>what if there is ABSOLUTELY no sign that she likes me? i cant force her to like me? or can i?</p>
<p>Trust me on this one: women find it impossible to say "no" to a normal guy who asks them out to their face. Assuming you are at least normal, you WILL get a date out of it. Then she will find out how much she enjoys spending time with you, and you will be raising kids together.</p>
<p>You don't always like someone right away! Like Joev is saying, if you can get a date out of it, she can better figure out if she could like you or if she'd never be interested in you</p>
<p>is it unusual for a really popular chick to go out with a not-so popular guy?</p>
<p>No, you can't force her to like you...but you can like you enough to not worry about it, which in turn will exude confidence which women get dripping wet over, which in turn will probably spark some interest from her, then you just take a moment to ask her out with confidence...make it short and smooth.... like, "Hey Barb, what time are you eating dinner this Friday night?, (wait for her response)... Alright, I'll be by your place at (half hour after the time she says).... and we'll go grab a drink." Get her digits, walk away, and leave it there until Friday night when you go pick her up, take her out for a drink, land back at her place, put your moves on, and finally go back home for a nice night of ESPN!</p>
<p>wow 311griff u must be a pimp!! so its better to be casual than formal?</p>
<p>formal is too pressure packed, just act like you've been there before...the initial thing you have to do is get a date, or at least some one on one attention...the other stuff, formal, etc...is all just details that are unecessary at this juncture...you haven't even got her in the sack yet, why do you wanna be formal?</p>
<p>i dont know. maybe so the girl thinks i am serious about her.</p>
<p>Do a nice balance or formal and casual, but offer her a date that is not easy to turn down or a question that is not too generic. Don't ask her "So what are you doing this weekend?" That gives her a chance to list activities that she is doing that don't involve you. Swing and a miss. Ask her something along the lines of "So can I count you in for dinner with me on Saturday?" Or "So I will pick you up at 8?"</p>
<p>girls, hot girls at least, have had too many guys be "serious" about them... that's old school now-a-days...you have to do it differently, with confidence, and an aura of "act as if", you can't be the dime a dozen guy...cuz then you're just back in the rat race competing against the other "serious" ones.</p>
<p>It's a big turn off to girls when some random guy who they don't really know is crazy about them. That overly "I'm in love with you" thing makes girls really uncomfortable dont' do it!</p>
<p>As crude as 311Griff's advice sounds, it's nonetheless helpful--he cuts the crap and gets to the point, and though I find it funny, I also find some (scary) truth in it.</p>
<p>The worst is when you don't know if the girl has a boyfriend or not.. har har har</p>
<p>i 311 dont really get that.</p>
<p>have u guys seen the movie Hitch? u guys sound exactly like him :) </p>
<p>so from what i am hearing, u dont want the girl to know that u like her but instead make it seem like a love game?</p>
<p>^no, that's not what I'm saying. Just don't be all lubby-dubby around her if you get the picture. For example don't say "I've been interested in you for a really long time and I'm having these strange crazy feelings for you. You're the only thing I can ever think about. I can't be whole if I can't be with you."</p>
<p>^^^^^^^well...thats actually what i am feeling but i shouldnt show it? would it show that i am a stocker/creeper?</p>
<p>Go for the simple "What's up? How about dinner Saturday at Eight." line if you can't get anything else to come out. Yeah Stacey the panda is right, if you come out all movie like and tell her how much you are in love with her and how much you can't stop thinking about her, she will kick you to the curb faster than a Ted Ginn Jr punt return.</p>
<p>^I've felt that way before...and it will scare her off. I'm not saying don't tell her something about your feelings, but girls don't like to be "cornered" which is essentially what you'd be doing. Remember, everything in moderation.</p>
<p>alright i get what ur saying. do u need to know the girl really well before u can ask her out or is that what a date is for (to learn about the girl)?</p>
<p>You have to build your clout, someway, that separates you from the crowd. Do something different, act like going out with girls, sinking your bone, having a good time, is nothing new. Ignore what other people think, be a man, a TRUE man....someone who has accomplished something (even if you really haven't, act as if you have), a guy who just does his thing....and just ask her out, non-chalant, with an attitude that speaks, "if you say no, no big deal, I've got a hoard of them waiting." I know it might be overstepping it for those guys out there who are trained to become p---- whipped, but if you want to effectively ask a girl out, you have to train yourself to see her as just a warm body, that needs to get laid. Otherwise, you will come across as over doing it, causing pressure, making her run the opposite way. You have to make the girl feel like "she's" missing out, not the other way around. Women respond to being treated like crud...not in language, but in attitude... why do you think all girls' ex's are A holes? or have something else wrong with their attitude, cockyness, etc.? Because that's the type of guys girls respond to.</p>
<p>^^^This guy is actually pretty good.</p>