<p>Ok lanks, lets slow down for a second. Your arguement has no factual basis and the statistics that you have presented hold no value towards declaring any sort of truth. While you state that african americans make up 40 percent of the welfare pool and are only 14 percent of the population (assuming that your statistics are correct) you are not considering the many other factors involved. I am inclined to believe that you do not recognize that according to the office for social justice 22.7 percent of african americans are born into or live in poverty, compaired to a small 7.8 percent of caucasians. This means that more african americans are born without a support system in poor areas; children lack the same quality of college focused education that is provided for caucasian students. The majority of African American youth are therefore stuck in a cycle that is not determined by effort or hard work, but their unfortunate circumstances. Hard work is probably something that you or I have no idea about, and because certain individuals of any race have to be provided welfare because of their lack of opportunities, it is not right for anyone to judge their circumstances, especially using race to scapegoat individual lazyness.
I supported Obama because of the promise that he represents and the actions he will take to provide the unfortunate with the opportunity to succeed. It is unfortunate that people like you, lanks, are hindering the racial progression of this country, and forming divides as barriers are trying to be broken.</p>
<p>Unfortnately you need taxes, try taking AP Gov and AP Macroeconomics. Maybe it'll change your abhorration of taxes. No one likes em, but they are a necessity</p>
<p>Well always nice to see stereotypes being thrown around on here. Thanks Afitscher.</p>
<p>I wish McCain was in office...</p>
<p>Oh btw, Canadian, the unfortunate have always been given the opportunity to succeed, so don't start with that crap. Several people have risen from poverty to successful people in society because they wanted to. Perhaps those in poverty just aren't dedicated enough to get out of it? Broad generalization here.</p>
<p>Obama's out for power and fame
And, Sarah Palin was the answer to our economy. ;)</p>
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<p>This in itself is a broad generalization.</p>
<p>People in poverty don't simply choose to stay in poverty. My school has clashing gangs, a high teen birthrate, very unstable homes, foster parents who don't really care, and nearly all students' parents (about 95%) have never gone to college and/or immigrants to the country.</p>
<p>How do you deal with a situation like that? Do you tell the students at my school to "try harder"? Sure there are ways to eventually overcome poverty and have success, but for every 1 kid who accomplishes this, than there are 10 more who are stuck in this repeating cycle. Students who are born in the working class are thrown into a system (in terms of education and opportunity-wise) that is unfair for them. I would think that the many privileged students of CC would be able to at least understand some of this.</p>
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<p>If you cut someone's arms off they can still find a way to swim. Does that mean they should be expected to be able to swim?</p>
<p>Socially liberal and fiscally conservative is the way to go.</p>
<p>^ So... libertarian?</p>
<p>How do people like lanks (OP) score high on the SAT?</p>
<p>Unoriginal, I agree with you totally, thanks for the support.</p>
<p>and about my SAT, i really didn't scoree too high (1170 reading/math)...keep in mind i have done high school in Toronto, Canada...</p>
<p>the reason I'm on this forum is because I am a legal citizen of the States also and am moving to Florida once I graduate...</p>
<p>One more topic to bring up, the FOCA act is ridiculous...Tax money is going towards helping people pay to get abortions, thats ridiculous...I'm Pro-choice but using tax money to pay for it is ludicrous... any thoughts?</p>
<p>I don't know why people acknowledge the OP.</p>
<p>Education is a way out of poverty. Doing well in high school, getting scholarships and such for college, graduating college and establishing a good network is how to get out of poverty. If people don't want to help themselves, then fine, let them do what they want.</p>
<p>exactly, its not like you have to pay to go to high school... education is free up to high school and if you were really wanting to go to university but did not have the money, you would try as hard as you can.</p>
<p>Exactly. It's not a punishment to go to high school. Rather, it's an opportunity to succeed, but only if you want to.</p>
<p>Well, first of all, you are misinformed considering welfare. Welfare makes up less then 1% of our nation's budget. I am not even getting into this.</p>
<p>Unoriginal, you are assuming that everyone has the same access in high school. Poverty-stricken areas do not have the same schooling resources that middle and upper class neighborhoods have. </p>
<p>I live right next to Detroit. The conditions there are pathetic. Those students are given a very bad chance at succeeding, not because they're unmotivated, but because they have bad resources. Teachers that don't want to be there, textbooks that are literally 30 years old, classrooms that are supposed to accommodate 30 students but are crammed with 50. AP classes? Ha, that's funny. Honors? Maybe, if they're lucky. I know some high schools near me that barely have a pre-calculus class because there's not enough students. </p>
<p>Seriously, get a clue. Don't think that everyone who wants to can succeed. Some people simply don't have the resources even if they have the drive.</p>
<p>An even easier way to get into college. I know this sounds messed up, but you and I both know that colleges love to see kids of an "underprivileged socio-economic background". Everything you described besides the lack of AP classes seems to be pretty normal for public high school.</p>
<p>You can only succeed if you rise above your adversities.</p>
<p>(btw, how do you quote stuff here?)</p>
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How do you deal with a situation like that? Do you tell the students at my school to "try harder"? Sure there are ways to eventually overcome poverty and have success, but for every 1 kid who accomplishes this, than there are 10 more who are stuck in this repeating cycle. Students who are born in the working class are thrown into a system (in terms of education and opportunity-wise) that is unfair for them. I would think that the many privileged students of CC would be able to at least understand some of this.</p>
<p>That's the way a capitalist society works. Kind of sucks for some people, but it's America.</p>