<p>My first post and I am a Dad of a HS Junior who be going to Class of 2014 in some college.
I read a lot and see most of the students applying to colleges have APs taken and scored very good like 5s and 4s.. They also got accepted in good colleges of their choice.</p>
<p>My question is are they getting credit for these AP courses in the Colleges ? or they just good to be used for admission purposes. I would expect that if someone took 12 AP courses then he or she should get 2 semester of Credit or atleast 1 semester..</p>
<p>So what is the experience out their after taking these AP courses. Does it saves on college year or not.??</p>
<p>My S is planning to finish 12 APs, he already finish 4 of them, (5,5,5,4). his GPA is 4.0 (out of 4.0)and 5.89 (out of 6.0). Junior Rank 1/643, Few ECs, Math state Championship, Finish Mini Med School, +++. Expecting to score 32+ in ACT and trying for 36 superscore.
He planning to go Pre-Med or Med Program (7yr). Looking at UChicago, WUStL, DUKE, Stanford, Harvard, NorthWestern, Norte Dame, UMiami, Vanderbilt and few more like Ohio State and UILC...</p>
<p>All universities are different and you will find that the more prestigious the college, the fewer credits are given. I believe WUSTL will grant a maximum of 15 credits but the rules vary depending on which college you are enrolling in.</p>
<p>Go to the search bar and type in “AP credit” and you will find the link. I think it is under FQA for freshman. You will also find some colleges will give credit for a 4 but others will not. </p>
<p>I personally know some people who have entered as a second semester sophomore with AP credits, but it was not to any of the schools you mentioned above.</p>
<p>Well, I answered in the other thread because I saw that first, but I’ll post my answer here and possibly expand a bit on it.</p>
<p>“You can transfer up to 15 AP credits to the general graduation requirement of 120 credits; however AP credits do not count toward completion of a major or minor, nor are they accepted for graduate school pre-requisites.”</p>
<p>15 credits is roughly equivalent to one semester’s worth of classes. Sometimes they allow you to place into a more advanced class, most times they do not. Generally at washu one only gets credit for 4s or 5s, but like donotstress says, it is quite dependent on the particular college’s policies.</p>
<p>Yeah, somewhat. Some AP tests, like the foreign languages, can, in conjunction with placement tests, give credit for multiple classes. Others, like chemistry for engineers, get you out of the general freshman course. Finally, some tests, like bio or physics, give you credit for courses “below” the general freshman course. That is, they give you biology/physics credit, but don’t actually get you out of any course that you would likely take.</p>
<p>You can definitely find specific AP credit info on each college’s web site. </p>
<p>You will not be able to save courses from some of your AP’s.
I am PreMed and will not get anything out of Bio, Chem and Calc.
Because you are PreMed you need to take Chem I and II, Bio I and II and two math courses. You can skip Calc I and take Calc II and III (or Stats). Most top schools don’t give credit for Pysch. You also have to take Writing and PreMed requires two English courses - so AP English doesn’t eliminate a course either.</p>
<p>Would like to hear from others that are PreMed and were able to use their APs. I do have 12 general credits from my APs.</p>
<p>He took Physics Chem UShist, taking this year calculus BC, Biology, European Hist and English language. Senior yr Stat, English Literature, Psych and Ecnomics/Politics.</p>
<p>dadfor2014, here’s what he’d get for WashU (assuming the right score is met); 15 credits is the cap, although there’s no cap on testing into more advanced coursework:</p>
<p>-Physics I or II (you didn’t specify which), but they’d strongly encourage it anyway for premeds (some med schools won’t accept AP as a “year of physics”)
-US History
-Calc I & II (but he’d still need to take at least two more classes, but it would probably be required for his major; Calc III, DiffEQ, and/or Stats)
-Euro
-Stats (but may not be the right stats for major)</p>
<p>That right there is >15 credits, so I won’t bother discussing the others that give elective but useless credit, since it doesn’t matter.</p>
<p>I’m pre-med and got credit for calc 1 and 2 through the Calc BC AP test. I got credit for 2 courses of spanish thanks to AP test and placement test. I got 3 general physics credits. Like said earlier - often times AP won’t place you into higher courses, but rather just give general credit.</p>
Did it reduce the total number of courses you will need to take to meet your major requirements, pre med requirements and graduation requirements?
If yes, did it allow you to reduce your overall course load by 4-5 courses so you could eliminate a semester if you chose?</p>
<p>I earned 12 credits but I am still going to have to take 8 full semesters of courses. I don’t have any foreign language credits and I took Calc AB. I am using some of the flexibility to double major in Bio - just need a few courses after meeting my pre med and PNP requirements to earn the Bio major.</p>
<p>I was just looking at UMiami and they were saying on their Web site they can take upto 60 Credit hrs for AP.
Hard to believe thats like 2 years of College. And courses were matching what he taking for AP in HS. They do have an average to good Med Program but nothing like WUSTL or UChicago or DUKE… I guess in the End the FA will weigh in heavily where to go. My EFC is coming like 18K not sure that be covered by Merit Scholar ship or not. UMiami do offer many Merit Scholarships if one get the right Grades…</p>
<p>It did not reduce the number of courses I need to take for my major or my pre-med requirements. It did reduce the number of courses I must take to meet graduation requirements. If graduating in 3 years was a goal of mine, then it would have been plausible for me to do so thanks to my AP credits. As it currently stands, I will likely have the option to graduate after 3.5 years while maintaining a completely reasonable course load.</p>
<p>@RyanMK
How many credit hours are actually focused on Pre-Med track? What are some classes you have taken or would recommend during first two semesters of freshman year? Could you guide me little bit on this please? I have taken Calc AB/BC and all three science AP courses. I am also considering to follow pre-med track at Wash U starting Fall 2013.</p>
<p>It’s fairly tough for me to say how many courses are focused on the pre-med track, as I’m majoring in biology and therefore taking more science than required. I think that minimally, the requirements are chem, bio, physics, orgo, two math, English, and maybe some things I’m forgetting. You will almost certainly take more than that simply because your interests likely lie in the natural sciences.</p>
<p>Freshman year the variation in pre-mes courses you take is fairly limited due to pre-requisites. I would highly recommend the lecture course MedPrep I to anyone considering a career as a doctor.</p>
<p>If you are not interested in math and want to get that finished freshman year, then I’d recommend one semester calc III and one semester stats.</p>
<p>Do we know what is the acceptance rate of WUSTL pre-med students for Med Schools, including acceptance in WUSTL Med School.
I am reading the top tier school has rate from 75% to 85%.
Then I read that KNOX college in IL has acceptance rate of 100% of it Senior class and some of them goes to WUSTL and John hopkins and other major Med schools.</p>
<p>So why should my S goes to these big schools whose acceptance rates are lower then 100%. Even he asking me why not KNOX ?? </p>
<p>I even read few posts from Cornell and Yale where students are discouraged by the admin not to follow the Med School and join some thing other…</p>
<p>The number given on the wustl website claims roughly 90% of pre-med students will be accepted into med school.</p>
<p>As for Knox College: The 100% statistic they cited was for one year (2011) only, not in general. Additionally, the pre-med population at knox is significantly smaller than the pre-med population at washu. A spring 2007 article on their website claimed that their overall med school acceptance rate is about 85%. Therefore, it is reasonable to assume that a pre-med education at washu is at the very least equal to one at knox, and nearly certainly better.</p>
<p>I don’t know anything about Knox. Be careful of Med School acceptance stats. The state university in my area will discourage premed students with lower GPAs from applying to Med School. This increases their acceptance rate. </p>
<p>What school to go to if you are absolutely sure you want to go to Med School or Grad School is an interesting debate. Some say go to the less expensive state school and get a very high GPA then spend your $ on a top Med School or Grad School. </p>
<p>If your goal is to get into any Med School, I think a lower academic school and lower cost for PreMed is probably the answer. If you want to go to a top Med School, I think going to a top academic school for PreMed is probably the answer. The other advantage of going to a top undergade college - 50% of students that enter college PeMed change out of PreMed. If you are at a top college, you have great academic options.</p>
<p>I am biased since I choose the WashU PreMed option instead of a good local school where I had a lot of scholarship money.</p>
<p>@gocardin
You can search for other threads that Ryan and I have posted on regarding PreMed courses. Last year’s “ask questions” thread Ryan repsonded to my question with details. </p>
<p>I am a PNP major. Here are the courses I am taking Fr year:
Chem I
Chem I Lab (this is a class and a Lab) - 2 credits
Calc II
Writing I
Mind Brain Behavior I (MBB)
MedPrep I - 1 credit</p>
<p>Bio I with Lab - 4 credits
Chem II
Chem II Lab (class and a lab) - 2 credits
MBB II
Psych</p>