Applying for fall 2015 vs 2014

<p>I posted something similar before, I planned on applying this nov. for fall 2014. I had planned on having 67 unites completed by Spring 2014. I currently have a GPA of 3.83. I am a History major and Have completed both English reqs. However I have not completed my Math req. I had planned on taking in in the spring, which I have read could mess with my chances. I was willing to take this risk. However I am currently taking a non credit math course at my ccc which is the class I have to take before STATS, it is an intermediate algebra which I had dropped with a W in the Spring of 2013. I had talked to a UCLA and several counselors who assured me this wouldn't hurt my chances because it was a non credit course/non transferable. However I happen to get a very difficult teacher, and after my first test, which I failed, I literally got the first F of my life. I have realized I am going to have to ether try hard to pass with a C, or eventually withdraw from the class. If I do try my best and end up with a C, I have a feeling this might hurt my chances. Since I am already pushing it by not having my STATS completed till Spring, if the plan on looking at my last math grade..it being a C might not be helpful in trying to determine if I would pass STATS or not. Therefore I am debating if I should stick to my original plan and apply anyway .Or if I should wait one more year, ether dropping with a W/retaking it or passing with a C, and take STATS no later than fall 2014, in order to have all pre reqs completed and be able to TAG to any school. (right now I van only tag to UCD UCSC OR UCM). </p>

<p>Pretty much I want know if waiting one more year, and having stats completed by the fall prior to transfer is the smartest thing to do? rather than risk being judged by a C in previous math. Also if I can not for the life of me pass this class with a C, would dropping it for the second time with a W hurt my chances...its a non credit class?</p>

<p>You should absolutely do whatever you can to pass this class (with a B if possible). You can certainly apply this year and reapply next year if you don’t get into. Keep in mind that IGETC (at least for my CC) requires that you complete a math portion to receive certification.</p>

<p>Do what I did, I bypassed algebra and took Stats 10 at UCLA Extension. There are no pre-reqs for the class. The website lists prerequisites, but it’s just a recommendation. This class will satisfy your math and also works for IGETC. It’s $630 but totally worth it. Below is a link, but there are multiple classes.</p>

<p><a href=“https://www.uclaextension.edu/pages/Course.aspx?reg=Z3898[/url]”>https://www.uclaextension.edu/pages/Course.aspx?reg=Z3898&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Can you change your class to P/F or have you already passed that deadline? You can take remedial classes as P/F as my friend did. My advice would be to complete Inter. Algebra this semester and finish Stats up spring semester. This past spring, my friend was admitted to Berkeley and UCLA in the CL&S and he did not take stats until spring. All they did was put in the stipulations that he had to pass Stats by the end of spring with a passing grade. It isn’t as big a deal as you might think.</p>

<p>Just apply this year. If you don’t get in, and don’t mind waiting, try again next year. You won’t lose anything by applying this year other than the application fee.</p>

<p>A Non-credit class won’t affect your admissions…
Apply this year.</p>

<p>I’m not sure why you’ve convinced yourself a C in a remedial course is going to jeopardize your chances at being admitted to any of the UC’s nor why also completing your math requirement in the spring is a deal breaker. As the UCLA rep mentioned and others have reiterated on this thread, a non-credit/remedial course isn’t going to have any impact on your admission chances, regardless of the grade. An A isn’t going to improve your chances any more than a C is going to jeopardize it because they aren’t going to take into consideration non-transferable courses. Also, if they’re really concerned with your potential grade in a class during the spring they have the option of stipulating in your provisional contract that you have to achieve a certain grade or GPA in order to keep your acceptance. Because it seems as if you’d be a competitive applicant in all other aspects, I wouldn’t worry all that much about either issue. </p>

<p>Also, just to add some clarity to the whole English/Math requirement in spring assumption, which is always brought up on this forum – there’s nothing on any of the UC admission websites or related sites that explicitly states that you need to complete your English/Math requirement before spring to be admitted at any UC. Additionally, if you look through previous years’ acceptance threads there are always instances of people being admitted while still completing those courses in spring. The only credence I personally know of to the speculation that the UC’s have a preference for you to complete those courses in spring is that UCSB admission reps in the past have told people, including myself when I was an applicant two years ago, that they prefer to see the English/Math requirement completed prior to the review process. However, I’ve never seen any support to the fact that it’s an automatic rejection or red flag jeopardizing your application if you have an otherwise strong application. I’ve also seen instances where people have been admitted to UCSB despite completing Math/English in the spring. Furthermore, UCSB is the only UC I’ve heard of that may have that preference. So, if they do have a strong preference for you to have your math already completed, which isn’t absolutely clear, you may be rejected to UCSB. Otherwise, there’s nothing substantial that I’ve seen in 3+ years of being on this site that your chances will be significantly jeopardized at any of the other UC’s because of it. </p>

<p>If you’re willing to postpone applying to the UC’s because you might not meet a “preference” for one of the UC’s, that’s your choice. Personally, I think if you maintain a 3.8+ GPA you’d have a legitimate chance at any of the UC’s, including UCSB. I’ve think migman offered some great advice in that you really have nothing to lose when applying to the UC’s. Unless you’re living paycheck to paycheck and you have to choose between paying your electric bill/eating dinner and applying to the UC’s, it’s probably worth it to apply. The exception being if you know you don’t meet some of the explicitly stated requirements. Every year there are applicants with sub 3.0s admitted to some of the UC’s and people with “low” GPA’s (< 3.4) getting admitted to UCLA and Berkeley, so there’s no point in selling yourself short before you’ve even applied.</p>