<p>Got into Penn State University Park! YAY!
2 acceptances so far. B-)</p>
<p>@EarlyAction95 well put, but that seems to be a mere assumption based on personal observation. Although competition is very tough for internationals, acceptance in most EDI or EDII ensures aid/scholarship that is concordant with full demonstrated need. In ED decision plans, the competition is not as tough as in regular where number of applicants is enormous; therefore, ED plans are better than regular ones even for internationals, at least up to some degree.</p>
<p>@BHhazy…congratz!!!</p>
<p>@Determined2013 –
“well put, but that seems to be a mere assumption based on personal observation. “</p>
<p>Thank you and errmmm I did say at the beginning of my response “To be honest, I personally think”. And once again, to be honest, at a forum like this, the only responses you are going to get are the ones ”based on personal observations”. If you want something more concrete then you can always email the college admins. :)</p>
<p>Nonetheless, though my opinion is “personal” it also happens to be an informed one. i.e. Something based on facts. </p>
<p>“acceptance in most EDI or EDII ensures aid/scholarship that is concordant with full demonstrated need.”</p>
<p>If the school says that it will meet your full need then what they mean is that…they will meet your full need. A school that states the above WILL meet full need regardless of the admissions plan…hence, even RD applicants will have their full need met! Secondly, most scholarships, especially the ones at places like vandy and Stanford are given in March/April, AFTER they have seen the RD pool. So, no, ed/ed2 will NOT give you an upper hand at merit scholarships. FACT 
feel free to research that.</p>
<p>“In ED decision plans, the competition is not as tough as in regular where number of applicants is enormous; therefore, ED plans are better than regular ones even for internationals, at least up to some degree.”</p>
<p>I agree to the last part that is “to some degree” but that actually, really, speaking realistically, it applies to citizens and not non-citizens…</p>
<p>You see, ED1 is already quite self-selective. Meaning, MOST of the applicants are AMAZING ONES which is one of the reasons why it is small. And that is also the reason why 40% of a class gets filled with them.</p>
<p>You are wrong to think that the competition isn’t tough. Especially when it comes to internationals, the competition is ALWAYS tough. And what makes it all the more tougher is that the number of seats for internationals are already limited. Do people with 1900 SAT get into Harvard. Yes… but are you telling me that it’s because the “competition wasn’t tough”?? it’s more likely that the person had some out-of-this-world hook and would have probably been accept in RD as well.</p>
<p>BUT, your original query wasn’t regarding ED1 VS RD…was it? it was regarding ED2 VS RD…now that’s something totally different… coz ED2 admission stats are WAYYYY lower than ED1 stats…just because it’s ED doesn’t automatically mean that it’s gonna be “easier to get in”…ed2 is a different ball game.</p>
<p>If 40% of the class is filled in ed1 (and that is an average at most places) do you really think another 40% will be filled in ed2? Hell to the no!!</p>
<p>Again, that’s a fact. Feel free to research it.</p>
<p>So to answer your original question once again. Realistically speaking, if you are an international and you get in with ED2, you would have definitely gotten in with RD as well!!</p>
<p>Cheers, we all are here to help each other.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>Gawd, i’m getting a bit of a reputation aren’t i :s</p>
<p>@Determined213 Vanderbilt is great and all but Stanford, in my opinion, is better. The financial aid that they both offer could be a deciding factor. In the end, the decision is up to you.</p>
<p>^^I’m glad to receive such a comprehensive response
I know that EDII is not very different than RD for an international, but I believe that the impact is not insignificant for internationals. RD provides less chances of admissions as colleges have a limit on number of international applicants they admit each year. Obviously, the number of international applicants will be way HIGHER in RD pool than in EDII, so chances of admission will decrease significantly.
Moving on to my query, I have to decided whether it’s worth rolling over to RD from EDII for Stanford. Actually, I want my stats to be considered before my query is answered. Before that, I would like to know people out there. @EarlyAction95</p>
<p>@AltoLime I know that, but my query is different. I have already applied in EDII to Vanderbilt, but Stanford has been a lifelong dream. Now, I am confused whether to roll over my EDII to RD so that I know about my decision from Stanford too or go with EDII to Vanderbilt. </p>
<p>Dear Determined2013,</p>
<p>You are true to your name.</p>
<p>In my humble opinion, you are looking at it the wrong way and relying way too much on stats!</p>
<p>Look at it this way, if they want you, they want you. If they don’t want you. They don’t want you. If you are not “Stanford” or “Vandy” material, then you just aren’t! It really won’t matter if 2k people applied or 500. If it’s a no, it’s a no. Get it? They won’t suddenly start “liking” you coz less people have applied!</p>
<p>And about your question, like I said before. If u get in with ED2 you would have got in with RD as well. Which means that go head change if you wanna, it really won’t make much difference except the fact that you will know you decision in April.</p>
<p>Also Vandy already knows how many internationals applied for RD as well. So really the numbers don’t matter, coz they know that 90% of those who have applied are as good or better than you are :)</p>
<p>It’s not the numbers/stats that will get you an acceptance, it’s your application!</p>
<p>I’ve actually been contemplating just accepting my offer at stony brook 0$ makes quite the compelling offer especially when you’re pre-health.</p>
<p>@pkteen - Storybrook gave you a 100% scholarship? or is it 0$ coz of you mom’s work place thingy?</p>
<p>@EarlyAction95 Agreed.
Are you Pakistani? Applying? Studying what?</p>
<p>Pakistani and applying!</p>
<p><<<<< This is magnificent. I love it :’)</p>
<p>In other news, a kid played an interesting prank on the JT student body yesterday by posting on a fake account, with the name and picture of a batch mate, claiming that he got into Brown due to some freakish reevaluation of ED. He managed to make his act quite convincing and caused A LOT of discussion and hubbub. This event has been the subject of practically all discussions at JT today and, now that it is over, we can have fun with it. It was very freakish weird and confusing yesterday since the real kid is only an average student who keeps quietish and no one knows what he is up to.</p>
<p>@Altolime That must be quite the situation XD Stony’s giving me an 18k scholarship. Another thing that might make me head towards stony is its proximity to NYC and also the fact that my focus is going to be pre health (need a very high GPA and the fact that med school is high on the $$$).
In other news, I had my Duke interview today. Went pretty well.
And yay! this thread is finally speeding up!
What major are you going to opt for?</p>
<p>@Pkteen - congratz! med school sure is very expensive in the US, but some places have started giving out financial aid to a very very small group of internationals…good luck! what is your primary major gonna be? i’m going for environmental science…i wanted to go for med as well but i decided against it since there is no way i can shell out 60k for med school lol…</p>
<p>Economics, English and Math. My passions are English and Math but in Pakistan, there is little hope for people like me so I will probably couple this with business education. Chose all my schools while keeping the prospect of a future in entrepreneurship in mind.</p>
<p>@pkteen and congrats again on stony book My best friend just got into Florida Tech, with an $18k scholarship too! He might go there but he wants more money.</p>
<p>Anyone from roots DHA here?</p>