<p>"I know way more girls who date less attractive guys than do I know guys who date "less attractive" girls."
That is the case in my expierence.</p>
<p>"I know way more girls who date less attractive guys than do I know guys who date "less attractive" girls."
This is true for the most part. Haven't any of you seen the movie Down to Earth with Chris Rock?!?! In one of the stand-up routines he talks about this. He said that girls will go out with uglier men if they "take care of her" and they will be proud of it. ie they will show the man off to their friends because he is "sweet," etc. Guys on the other hand would never tell anyone they were dating an ugly woman.
These aren't my personal opinions- just Chris Rock's. So flame him, not me. lol.</p>
<p>I agree with u. </p>
<p>It is not hard to see a very attractive girl with a sorry-looking or avg.-looking guy while it is very rare to see a good-looking guy with a sorry-looking girl.</p>
<p>Joev is right on.</p>
<p>Just listen to the song Slow Motion by Juvenile and go from there.</p>
<p>"Meet chicks at places where they have nothing to do but wait, so they end up talking to you. Like a gas station, line for parking pass, laundr-o-mat, etc..." --Joev</p>
<p>But, avoid the ones standing in line at the free clinic.</p>
<p>"Meet chicks at places where they have nothing to do but wait, so they end up talking to you. Like a gas station, line for parking pass, laundr-o-mat, etc..." </p>
<p>Love is where you find it. I think it is foolish to go looking for it, and I think it can often be poisonous. - Kurt Vonnegut</p>
<p>Also, Big Poppa by Notorious B.I.G.</p>
<p>Have to say that I disagree with some of this. While some girls are interested only in hot guys, and some only like ones that make their lives miserable, a lot of women are not like that. Usually, the latter group are also among those who would mess with your mind, given the chance.</p>
<p>Re: the friend thing. It's called confidence. Friendship is the basis of every good relationship. A friend of many years asked me out by cooking dinner for me - which was a really sweet way of expressing his feelings. (Note that we dated until I moved a few hundred miles away.) I'm digging through my memory and trying to remember if a guy friend has asked out a girl and she's turned him down - not coming up with much.</p>
<p>Finally - very random thought - but girls with older brothers or a lot of male friends tend to be less - um, whiny - than the average woman.</p>
<p>Think of it as a business venture. </p>
<p>You are creating a merger with a certain company with expectations. Inter- and intra-personal compromises are needed. Keep the shortcomings of the other side in mind, but focus more on how YOU can make it work. </p>
<p>Good luck. (And I agree that friendship is massively important in a relationship. Love connects you to your family, whether you want it to or not; it's not a choice. But to "like" someone is a choice that centers around past and future choices. Love's like the flame--it rises and falls. Like is the ember that keeps going unless you never planned for it at all. With like, you can always rekindle the love. Without it, that's strike three, you're out.) </p>
<p>-L.</p>
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<p>Oh please.</p>
<p>Oh please. At least offer some sort of follow-up on that erudite phrase. </p>
<p>One of the greatest problems in relationships now is the diminishing of friendship and the added emphasis on love. What happens when loves crashes hm? Sometime in the future, the bad habits of your "beloved" will start to irritate you. If you're not friends, you can't work around that. </p>
<p>Sure, if you want a shallow body-oriented "relationship" don't put effort into making a friend of your significant other. But if you want it to last, you've got to put more than hormones and you pre-conceived notions of romance into it.</p>
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Finally - very random thought - but girls with older brothers or a lot of male friends tend to be less - um, whiny - than the average woman.
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<p>Interesting observation.</p>
<p>I second that. </p>
<p>confidence is key in relationships, but friendzone is not. believe it or not, girls have a seperate category for "friends" and "romantic interests." for guys, its jsut one big jumble.</p>
<p>I agree with hobbes...I never said that cultivating a friendship within a relationship was bad, but you can't let a girl think that you are just friends and then go from there...that is disastrous. Screw first, become friends later.</p>
<p>here we go again....</p>
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These aren't my personal opinions- just Chris Rock's. So flame him, not me. lol.
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<p>Chris Rock must have been doing some crack when he said that.</p>
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confidence is key in relationships, but friendzone is not. believe it or not, girls have a seperate category for "friends" and "romantic interests." for guys, its jsut one big jumble.
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<p>Do any other guys agree with this?</p>
<p>Haven't you ever heard the phrase, "Let's just be friends" ?</p>
<p>I suppose I'm a counterexample. I've had girls that I've considered only as friends develop into more than friends and, similarly, had girls that considered me only as a friend consider me as more. There are no laws, sanctions, or regulations on the game. You just play it, have fun, and try not to ask too many questions.</p>
<p>"There are no laws, sanctions, or regulations on the game."</p>
<p>I think it is the universal truth.</p>