<p>I want to put either ASU or U of Arizona as my safety school, but not both. I live in SoCal...</p>
<p>What's the difference between these schools?? They're in 2 different cities but they appear to be clones of each other... What are the pros/cons of each? Thanks</p>
<p>I think UA is slightly better overall, but ASU has a better Honors college.
Tempe/Phoenix>Tucson IMO.</p>
<p>Yeah Tuscon is crappy but UA is a slightly better school. Plus ASU has around 53,000 undergrads awhile UA has about 29,000.</p>
<p>The bottom line is that UA is a better school overall, but ASU has one of the best honors programs in the country.</p>
<p>From your many, many posts I feel familiar with your stats and don't think you need to dip this low for a safety. Your safeties can be CSU's and low tier UCs which are mostly better than the Az schools and in state for you tuition wise.</p>
<p>What's wrong with UA? The University of Arizona is a public ivy. I can understand how ASU would be dipping low, but not UA.</p>
<p>thanks hmom, that helps me narrow down my list</p>
<p>edit: if UA would be amazing at one thing, what would it be? i would only keep it on my list if there was a big reason for me to go there...</p>
<p>I really liked the campus of UA. When you say you're only keeping UA on your list if there was a big reason to go, do you mean you would apply to ASU instead or you would apply to no Arizona schools?</p>
<p>if UA had nothing special, i guess i would just forego applying to any AZ schools</p>
<p>Ummm, would have to seriously disagree with calling either Arizona school a public ivy. While I have trouble with that term altogether, for this purpose I'll just say it's not even close to being in the same league as Berkeley, UVA, Michigan or the others often referred to as public ivies.</p>
<p>UA is a public ivy. You don't have to like the college or agree with that assessment, but it is classified as a public ivy. And the question what's UA good at is hard to answer because the answer is different for everyone. I mentioned that I really liked the campus but there might be something special about the college that you would really like. No one else can answer for you because you know yourself best. Have you visited?</p>
<p>well, does UA have any certain departments/majors that really stand out, or is everything pretty equal? i wanted to see they happen to be good at any majors i am debating</p>
<p>btw i thought calling a school a public ivy was just unofficial and subjective. is there actually a list of some kind</p>
<p>lol u of a is a public ivy only if every public school with an avg act score of 21-26 is also one.</p>
<p>in other words... no it's not.</p>
<p>U of A is a public ivy-look it up. It gets more money from NASA than Harvard. Also, no school should be judged solely on their test scores, very superficial.
I looked extensively at both schools, and U of A is definitely better. It has a pretty campus, great academics, and a very good reputation. Tempe is cool if you like a big city, but Tucson can have that feel and has mountains.</p>
<p>If you can get into ASU Honors, go there.</p>
<p>Yeah, Barrett does have a great reputation</p>
<p>Classified by whom? Can the word ivy, in the context of the highly selective ivy league schools, be used to describe a school which accepts over 77% of their applicants and has very modest average applicant stats?</p>
<p>Flame away, but please, calling it an average public college is generous.</p>
<p>UA seems like a better school to me with a better campus.
....but it is definitely NOT a "public ivy"</p>
<p>I recommend applying to some lower end UCs like someone else recommended </p>
<p>Good luck choosing!</p>
<p>Public Ivy is a term coined by Richard Moll in his 1985 book Public Ivys: A Guide to America's best public undergraduate colleges and universities to refer to universities which "provide an Ivy League collegiate experience at a public school price." Public Ivies are considered, according to the Journal of Blacks in Higher Education, to be capable of "successfully competing with the Ivy League schools in academic rigor... attracting superstar faculty and in competing for the best and brightest students of all races".
*U of A is on the list. Along with UCLA and Berkley.
The definition of an Ivy League School: The Ivy League is an athletic conference comprising eight private institutions of higher education in the Northeastern United States. The term is most commonly used to refer to those eight schools considered as a group. The term also has connotations of academic excellence, selectivity in admissions, and social elitism.
*This is what an Ivy League is, and it's only 8 schools. The U of A is amazing, and again superficial test scores.</p>
<p>"in his 1985 book"</p>
<p>Maybe back then UA was amazing but now there are a lot more colleges that would be considered "private ivy" over it. Plus "private ivy" isn't even a real thing and can be based on opinions and rumors.</p>