<p>^ eh?</p>
<p>i was just implying that the students there are so lucky to be so brilliant..jeez..</p>
<p>Luckily, very few of the CC posters are going to go to top schools because apparently those posters CAN'T read.</p>
<p>First, the article is about one elite prep school in Seoul. Not China, not North Korea. South Korea.</p>
<p>Second, the article stated that 2203 was an average SAT score for that school's class of 2008. Not average for Korean kids, not average for Chinese kids. Average for class of 2008 in one elite prep school in Seoul.</p>
<p>Reading comp FTW.</p>
<p>^ damn good job. you can read.</p>
<p>@Ashraf Eassa - LMFAO NICE COMMENT,HAHAHA, CRACKED ME UP IN RL =P</p>
<p>anyway, this thread is damn ridiculous. saying avg "2290" is even worse. what if this one school only has 1 student, who got 2400. OH DAMN NATIONAL AVERAGE 2400. BRIGHTEST KIDS IN THIS COUNTRY, this and that.
i mean W.t.f.?? koreans are smart yeah, but that's just silly to say 2290 is the avg. majority are smart,if not,very smart.
what about chinese people? there are damn loads of crazy smart chinese people too,but the avg is probably low. </p>
<p>pffft 2290. wat a joke</p>
<p>AOM, your better off not spreading news like this ><</p>
<p>To Leibenasuka. Your ignorance, xenophobia, and prejudice is astounding. Ever thought of the fact that maybe I'm a first generation Chinese American (as are most Chinese Americans), meaning that I am the first generation born and raised in the USA? That means that a lot of my family has deep roots in China (but in my case it's the Republic of China aka Taiwan, which is a DEMOCRATIC country). I am a Taiwanese/Chinese American and even I am offended when people say that "the people of China are the ones causing the problems." That would be like me saying that "the people of America are the most racist people in the world."</p>
<p>Powerbomb, it's really easy to have a social life during high school (it requires little effort), but there's a lot more effort put into studying and getting good grades in high school. Of course, it's beneficial (and inclined to your favor) if you have both, but good grades WILL get you farther in life. You can have a social life in college, and later on, but understand that there is NOTHING wrong with those who want to study all day for a 2400 or straight A's, especially since that person cares about his/her future. You have to give them the utmost respect. (It's all about perspective.) Work hard now...reap the rewards later..</p>
<p>sorry for my word usage,but i was getting a lil emotional lol...
oops.
"Work hard now...reap the rewards later.."
i like this line =]</p>
<p>uh-oh... do you guys think that top colleges expect really good scores from applicants who are from Korea now??? This worries me cuz I'm Korean...and I really don't think I can get a near-perfect SAT score...</p>
<p>liebenasuka,</p>
<p>"People who are in power are still the illiterate people or their descendents who were priviledged when China was highly communist."
Are you illiterate or what? Things you know about China are really superficial. Pls read more beside those media distortion.</p>
<p>"Chinese people in china are those who are causing the problem". This is definitely a flawed statement. Pls think first before you say something. As a Chinese, I feel deeply offended.</p>
<p>angryasianman,</p>
<p>For what you just said "ignorance, xenophobia, and prejudice is astounding",I totally agree with you. Thanks for defending Chinese culture and its people!</p>
<p>will lousy korean students take the SAT? no -- they're not aiming to go to a prestigious college in America. they're taking it to ace it. whereas in the states, people of all educational backgrounds take it. why? for some people, even a 1800 would be their biggest goal to get into some community college or something... i don't know.</p>
<p>@Helen0li & Angryasianman in defense of Liebenasuka</p>
<p>Lieb is not saying that the majority of the population of china is flawed, he/she is saying that the leadership cause media distortion which causes things like this article which show only the good light of china, not the bad. Although I am not Chinese, I do not thing that what lieb is saying is close to
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ignorance, xenophobia, and prejudice is astounding
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This is further proved in the way china is handling the Olympics, including putting fines for speaking English incorrectly and cleaning up the sections of china where the Olympics are being held so that the world only sees china in a good light. If you don't call that media distortion, than I don't know what is.</p>
<p>Thank you az1698.</p>
<p>@Helen0li & Angryasianman </p>
<p>Alright punks. Before you kids throw crap at me and calling me a xenophobe, have you ever considered the possibility that I could be Chinese myself?
Let me tell you this. I was born and raised in China. I spent my first 12+ years in China. I came here 4 years ago THEREFORE, I KNOW MORE ABOUT CHINA THAN YOU DO! And Helen0il, I don't just read the American news, I read news from both sides. And anyone who is rational can figure out who's telling the truths by looking at the news.</p>
<p>When I was in China, I was completely brainwashed into a chauvanistically patriotic tard. As a kid I belived everything the media says, not knowing that my who family was once destroyed by the commies.</p>
<p>What's worse is that I didn't know these things until I came to America. When I began to see different points of views in media, especially about things in China, I felt strongly cheated. I was especially mad at the fact that the commies taught me in history class that killing people like my grandparents and pillaging thier families was a righteous thing to do.
I WAS TAUGHT TO HATE MY ANSCESTORS. And if you two want to go with "Chinese culture"(you guys seem to respect it), then let me tell you this: as a Chinese, you should always respect your anscestors. And what the commies had done to me was just cruel, especially to a Chinese person like myself.</p>
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That would be like me saying that "the people of America are the most racist people in the world."
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Well, America is in fact pretty racist, but what's the big deal? Just show that you are competent at what you are doing, and people WILL respect you. No matter what you are. The ones who always play out the racist card, running down the streets, shaking his head and shouting "racist! he's racist!" should be the one's to be looked down at. Again, I don't like the cliche, but America is a free country. If you think it's racist and don't like it, you are FREE to leave. Go to some place that you'll succeed, like China. (which I highly doubt it, since in china is not as diverse and doesn't have affirmative actions, you can't blame all your failures on racism.)</p>
<p>liebenasuka has pretty much sealed this argument ^_^</p>
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Ren the SAT'er, we would appreciate if you would refrane from such languge as d**n, this is a clean site and we would like it to keep it that way thank you.
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<p>Oh yeah? You think him using the word d<strong>n is intolerable, and yet you don't even tolerate a person's sexual orientation? Being lesbian or not is one's own choice. It's none of your **</strong>ing business, mister keep-the-site-clean-brat.</p>
<p>To Leibanasuka: You are either a self-hating idiot who is ashamed to be Chinese or someone who claims to be Chinese but is in fact not. Sure, Chairman Mao was an idiot when he initiated the cultural revolution that destroyed a lot of what we value as "traditional Chinese culture" but at least he finally helped the Chinese people stand up for themselves. I find today's China to be completely different from yesterdays China and I have many friends LIVING in China right now who are pretty satisfied with their lives. They aren't being oppressed or brainwashed either. On their online forums, they cuss out the Chinese government all the time about this and that. They are free to say whatever they want. And the government in fact tries to keep DOWN feelings of nationalism because they are afraid that instead of directing their anger at westerners who constantly slander Chinese people, the Chinese people will begin directing their anger toward the government and cause another revolution. And let me ask you this: ni huay jiang guo yur ma? Hai shi ni bu shi zhong guo ren?</p>
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I find today's China to be completely different from yesterdays China and I have many friends LIVING in China right now who are pretty satisfied with their lives.
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Yes, but at other's expanse? The condition of rural area is pretty bad, though I don't have many relatives living there. And people tend to get satisfied when they have nothing to compare it with. I was satisfied myself with my life when I was in China, so what? I hadn't seen any other lifestyle but the chinese one.</p>
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On their online forums, they cuss out the Chinese government all the time about this and that.
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Go to the baidu forums(if you claim yourself to be chinese you should know). Post something bad about the government and watch it gettiing deleted in 5 minutes. They even closed down forums with sensitive topics so that YOU CAN'T EVEN POST on them. Of course, unless you are talking about Taiwanese ones, which are much, much better.</p>
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They aren't being oppressed or brainwashed either.
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How can you tell if you are brainwashed while you are being brainwashed? Nowadays brainwashing is that you don't learn about the true history of china and your brain is filled up with one-sided arguments so that you become close-minded and ignorant about things going on in the world.
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And the government in fact tries to keep DOWN feelings of nationalism because they are afraid that instead of directing their anger at westerners who constantly slander Chinese people, the Chinese people will begin directing their anger toward the government and cause another revolution.
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<p>Tell me about it. Just recently the government sponsored boycott on Japanese product simply because they were the aggressors in WWII? Don't be rediculous.</p>
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And let me ask you this: ni huay jiang guo yur ma? Hai shi ni bu shi zhong guo ren?
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<p>Ni de zhong guo hua shuo de tai cha le, lian pin yin dou bu hui zheng que de pin. Ni hai wen wo shi bu shi zhong guo ren?</p>
<p>Suan le, zai xia jiu mian fei bang ni gai yi xia ba!</p>
<p>ni huei jiang guo yu ma? Hai shi ni bu shi zhong guo ren?</p>
<p>Learn how to spell...</p>
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You are either a self-hating idiot who is ashamed to be Chinese or someone who claims to be Chinese but is in fact not.
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<p>I highly doubt your reading skills. How many times do I have to say this, I don't hate the Chinese race because I am Chinese myself and thus I'm not ashamed of being a Chinese. I'm actually pround of being an open-minded Chinese who sees both sides of issues and decide which side is right on myown rather than a chauvanistic Chinese who always looks at one sided arguments.</p>
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Sure, Chairman Mao was an idiot when he initiated the cultural revolution that destroyed a lot of what we value as "traditional Chinese culture" but at least he finally helped the Chinese people stand up for themselves.
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<p>The cultural revolution is not relavent to what I have said. It wasn't mentioned anywhere in the passage. Nor have I commented on whether the traditional Chinese culture being destroyed is good or bad. You reading skill really worries me.
The communists pillaging the rich and giving the wealth to the lazy happened in the 40's, where as the cultural revolution was in the 50's-60's. And the cultural revolution was the product of Chinese people on their own, where as the equal distribution of the wealth was the tenet of Communism. To tell the truths, my great grandparents and parents were not as badly affected by the cultural revolution as they were by the distribution of wealth(where my great grandpa died in the process) besides getting humiliated repeatedly just like a lot of others in the cultural revolution. If you claim yourself to be a chinese, learn your history and get the facts right.</p>
<p>what about dem indians man.</p>
<p>99% or oriental Asians I know don't have any common sense, they have been trained to accept the realities of social oppression i.e. americanized names, jobs in engineering that don't lead to management status etc. When have you ever seen a Chinese American politician or even plain intellectual. Not to be condescending, but the fact is that oriental Asians put far more of an emphasis on money which is a product of high test scores, and as a result Koreans such as those in the article fit that profile.</p>