best public state schools?

<p>Don't think anyone mentioned The College of New Jersey. That is an excellent state school. One of the best and most selective in the region</p>

<p>buffalo that isnt true...while the percentage of students coming from OOS is higher at UVA, it is still more selective and more difficult to gain admission to than UNC..I have seen countless examples of this from my school, only the best applicants get into UVA, kids that get into UNC are a step below (though they still have very good stats)</p>

<p>Yes only kids from one school makes the data meaningful--an you know everyone of them and their stats--very weird school.</p>

<ol>
<li><p>The only one that's this big is probably UT-Austin</p></li>
<li><p>This is Berkeley</p></li>
<li><p>Could be either of the above</p></li>
</ol>

<p>Vicissitudes,
The answers to my questions posed in #36 above are:</p>

<ol>
<li><p>Can you name the public school that has over 29,000 students that ranked in the Top 10% of their high school class?
A: U Florida </p></li>
<li><p>Which public school(s) has 99% of their incoming students coming from the Top 10% of their high school class?
A: UC Berkeley and UC San Diego</p></li>
<li><p>Which public schools had over 6000 entering students who scored 1400 or higher on the SATs?
A: More than one might realize. UC Berkeley, U Michigan, U Wisconsin, U Texas and U Florida all had over 6000 </p></li>
</ol>

<p>There are a lot of good students at state universities, including some of the less heralded ones like U Texas and U Florida.</p>

<p>hawkette,</p>

<p>i find it incredible that those schools can all have over 6000 entering students with over 1400...when at least 3 of them dont even have class sizes of 6000...</p>

<p>Extrapolated for 4 years of classes.</p>

<p>berkeley most likely doesn't have 6000 ugrads with over 1400. the entering class is only about 4100 students--the other 7000 undergrads are mostly transfers from CCs...I highly doubt many of those students cracked 1400 on their SATs.</p>

<p>now of course, i'm sure you do some calculations to figure it out--i'm not doin that though.</p>

<p>I'd probably go with </p>

<p>1) Berkeley
2) U-M / UVA (tied)
4) W&M
5) UCLA
6) Madison
ect</p>

<p>I might be wrong on my 5th choice, but a few of my friends go there so I'm a bit bias >_></p>

<p>rutgers anyone?</p>

<p>College Of New Jersey</p>

<p>
[quote]
2. Which public school(s) has 99% of their incoming students coming from the Top 10% of their high school class?
A: UC Berkeley and UC San Diego

[/quote]
</p>

<p>Along the lines of what jags861 said, I think it should be pointed out that it is only 99% of the incoming * freshmen * students at Berkeley and UCSD that are in the top 10% of their high school class. </p>

<p>Many students at both schools are transfer students, and I highly doubt that many of them were in the top 10% of their high school class. Let's be honest about what the transfer process really serves. It usually serves those students who did poorly in high school, but then picked it up in community college such that they become eligible to transfer to UC. If they had done very well in high school, they probably would have gone to UC straight away.</p>

<p>California has so many poor public high schools that being in the top 10% has limited meaning. Many of the real top students are siphoned off to private schools.</p>

<p>UC Berkeley
UVA
U of Michigan
University of Washington
U of I (UC)</p>

<p>OOPS - Forgot UNC Chapel Hill (in between UM and UW)</p>

<p>This is my opinion. It's not based on any rankings... just the experiences I've had with the schools (personally, professionally, and through friends,) and my view of the schools' reputations (for employment, not the reputation for the general population.)</p>

<p>Tier 1
1. UC Berkeley<br>
2. Virginia<br>
3. UCLA
4. UNC</p>

<p>Tier 2
5. Michigan
6. William and Mary
7. Washington
8. Georgia Tech
9. Wisconsin
10. Pitt </p>

<p>Tier 3
11. UCSD
12. Florida
13. Texas
14. UC Irvine
15. Illinois
18. Maryland
19. Rutgers
20. Miami (OH)</p>

<p>Tier 4
21. UC Davis
22. U Conn
23. Texas A&M
24. Georgia
25. UCSB</p>

<p>Illinois and Michigan are ranked too low. I'm guessing you are not from the midwest.</p>

<p>As I said, these aren't the US News Rankings, and I'm sure many people here will disagree with my rankings (mostly because they've been conditioned to believe US News as gospel truth.) But these are the rankings based on my views, as someone from a big city who has spent a lot of time talking to employers and different people with various backgrounds. Maybe in certain areas some schools are more highly regarded, but, again, these are MY views, and I have not spent equal time in all areas of the country. I have done some significant traveling, but most of my time has been spent on the coasts. I am not saying my rankings are perfect, but I definately like them better than US News. US News is good for number crunchers, but it leaves out so much. It is not going to tell you how much you will like a school or what your career opportunities will be like... it leaves out some of the most important information out there.</p>

<p>from U.S. News rankings, top public schools:
1. UC-Berkeley
2. University of Michigan
2. Virginia
4. UCLA
5. UNC</p>

<p>note: schools 2-5 are very close in rankings</p>

<ol>
<li>College of William and Mary</li>
<li>Wisconsin</li>
<li>UCSD</li>
<li>Georgia Tech (is this private?)</li>
<li><p>UIUC</p></li>
<li><p>University of Washington</p></li>
<li><p>UC-Irvine</p></li>
<li><p>Penn State</p></li>
<li><p>Texas</p></li>
<li><p>UC-Davis</p></li>
</ol>

<p>"I have done some significant traveling, but most of my time has been spent on the coasts."</p>

<p>Well, this was apparent from your rankings. People on the coasts tend to underestimate midwest schools.</p>

<p>At least for engineering, I know that u. of Michigan undergrads are preferred to any public school except for maybe Berkeley. UIUC grads are also highly regarded in engineering.</p>