<p>Dear lovely folks,</p>
<p>I do not want to fuel an outrageous debate. I just want kind people to let me know the best UNDERGRAD Business schools in Canada (if possible with substantial links)</p>
<p>May god bless you
Thank you.
REPLY ASAP NERDSSSS :p</p>
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<li><p>Richard Ivey School of Business - HBA</p></li>
<li><p>Queen’s School of Business - Commerce</p></li>
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<p>GAP</p>
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<li>McGill Desautels - BCom</li>
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<p>The rest of the programs are not worth any international student’s money.</p>
<p>Thanks. But how come UOFT doesnt feature on you’re list??? :O</p>
<p>^ Because Ivey HBA and Queen’s Commerce are the only two Business programs in Canada that have good job placements. </p>
<p>If you want to work as a janitor or accountant your entire life, go for Schulich or Rotman.</p>
<p>^ Whats ur opinion about McGill??? </p>
<p>I rejected both Queens and Ivey for it.</p>
<p>@asian123
If you want a good job placement in Canada, Queens and Ivey are good choices. If you want to work outside of Canada, McGill is the right choice.</p>
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<p>That was pretty stupid of you. But, then again, plenty of dumb internationals make the same mistake. </p>
<p>If you’re looking for the top jobs, look at Ivey HBA first, then Queen’s Commerce, then McGill. The rest are useless.</p>
<p>FYI: In this year’s Goldman NY SA class, there are 7 Ivey HBA students, 2 Queen’s Commerce students, and none from any other Biz-school in Canada. Just for comparisons, Princeton and Wharton have 11 each and Yale has 8. The Ivey HBA, if you use it well, can open up as many doors to the top jobs as any top school in the US.</p>
<p>McGill’s placements and reputation is still good. For the fields that i am interested in, the starting salaries are comparable to Queens and Ivey. </p>
<p>Which University do u attend btw?</p>
<p>^ PrincetonDreams goes to Stanford.</p>
<p>Actually, there are 5 Queen’s Commerce students in this year’s GS NY SA class (2 last year)</p>
<p>But yes to reiterate,
<p>I think some of these answers might be geographically biased. All the schools mentioned are great, but other great schools have not been mentioned, like UBC Sauder and HEC Montreal. (And there must be at least one top school in Alberta, no?)</p>
<p>This ranking appeared on the NY Times. It’s more international than the Canadian rankings, as they asked CEOs from 10 countries to tell which schools they recruit from:</p>
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<p>In Canada, it’s 1. McGill, 2. HEC Montreal, 3. U of T (Rotman) according to this.
I recently visited HEC and was very impressed: classes in 3 languages, lots of research, 1/3 of students international. Apparently they have a 4-year bachelor’s degree where you take your 1st year in English with intensive French courses, and then you take half of your courses in French, half in English. Anybody heard of this program? Any feedback?</p>
<p>What a lot of total nonsense on this thread. Princetondreams is particularly out of touch. Stop drinking the koolaid kids.</p>
<p>nvasiliev,</p>
<p>UBC is nowhere near Ivey and Queen’s in terms of recruiting opportunities and the number of students getting placed in very elite jobs. U of T’s business program is about equal to UBC. Don’t know anything about HEC Montreal.</p>
<p>I’d say Tier 1 would be Ivey and Queens</p>
<p>Then Schulich at York Uni, McGill, Sauders at UBC, Rotman at UT, Laurier, etc</p>
<p>Note Rotman’s undergrad biz program may not be top tier, but their MBA program is outstanding.</p>
<p>I would pretty much agree with that but I think McGill does a little bit better than UBC and I imagine that Schulich > Laurier but these are minor distinctions.</p>
<p>Definitely. It’s arguable that Schulich is also part of the top tier Canadian business schools, but I think it’s still too new of a program, but definitely reaching there. Theyre international BBA program looks sick, only 100 get admitted.</p>
<p>McGill is probably a bit better than UBC, but for prestige and name, McGill is awesome. But I don’t like McGill’s system where they only look at grades for admission. Ivey and Queen’s all want to see top marks as well as leaders</p>
<p>The unfortunately reality when it comes to Canadian undergraduate business programs is that there is significant incongruence between what high school applicants are looking for in their undergraduate experience, and what actual business undergraduates value.</p>
<p>Business is a stream unlike the other areas of humanities/social studies and certainly unlike the sciences. Typically, there is a directly linked post-grad goal, for instance politics/philosophy to law school, econ/math to masters/PhD programs, or science degree to med school. In these cases, you stay in academia, so where you go to school for undegrad doesn’t really matter; as long as you do well, you’ll successfully move on to the next step.</p>
<p>For business however, the goal for the vast majority of undergrads, is not to stay in academia, but rather to enter the workforce upon graduation. This is where the incongruence is most prevalent. Back when I was in Gr.12, recruiting and job placements were never criteria on which I evaluated universities, and certainly didn’t have much influence in the decision making. Now that I’m an undergrad though, and having gone through recruiting processes, I can say that finding a full-time job is the absolute #1 goal on the vast majority of people’s minds. </p>
<p>And here’s the difference. Applying to post-grad programs is a pull system: law schools and med schools just sit there and take applications from anywhere. The workforce on the other hand, is a push system: companies hold info sessions on campus and try to reel in kids from the schools they want. The truth is, companies like Morgan Stanley, Boston Consulting Group, Deloitte, or P&G don’t recruit everywhere. They have schools that they want to hire from (same thing goes in US schools too).</p>
<p>It’s for this reason that it’s been reiterated on this thread there is a significant degree of separation between Ivey and Queen’s, and the rest of the business schools. It becomes more apparent when you visit the offices of the global companies - most of the entry level/junior employees have some degree from Ivey or Queen’s, and those who don’t are often a Canadian from an Ivy who wanted to go back to Canada after graduating. Even during the interviewing process, most of the candidates brought down for final rounds are Ivey/Queen’s (though Waterloo’s presence is really exploding).</p>
<p>I have always found it odd that McGill’s presence isn’t bigger though. Not sure what the root issue is there. UBC and the Alberta schools definitely shouldn’t be ignored, but I think their alumni network is a bit weaker.</p>
<p>Edit: Oh but it look like OP got into Wharton so it doesn’t matter haha</p>
<p>I’m sorry strabright, but that’s the truth.</p>
<p>Ivey and Queen’s are definitely the top undergrads for business. The only thing about Ivey is that for the first 2 years, you are “exploring a variety of academic interests” i.e. not really learning business. The HBA program truly begins in year 3. (Note that 1/3 of the students that form Ivey is transferred in from other unis)</p>
<p>Schulich’s MBA is good, but there’s no point in taking their undergrad if you’re an international unless it’s the iBBA.</p>
<p>UWO Richard Ivey.</p>