Brown Class of 2022 Applicants Discussion

And they never really gave me a response so Im not really sure IF I get in I will be considered for financial aid :frowning:

@feast1n8 : I have never been in your situation. Sorry, I don’t have the answer. All the AOs must be very busy now, I would understand if they cannot respond to individual queries/requests.

To add to the information on #1040 comparing Ivy League graduation requirement, here is how their grading systems compare 
 http://www.browndailyherald.com/2006/02/22/despite-its-quirks-brown-grading-system-not-the-oddest-in-the-ivies/

But it is the policy which not mentioned at the link above make Brown students truly flexible 
 failed courses are not listed on transcript and the deadline to drop a course is the week before finals.

For example, those two Connecticut students who got accepted to a list of Ivy League schools last year (http://fox61.com/2017/04/20/two-connecticut-students-get-accepted-to-a-list-of-ivy-leagues/ watch video), who applied as a French/social sciences/classics major but they actually intended to do pre-med (both of them, go figure!). It is possible that during a freshman weeds-out course (e.g. organic chemistry) where at some pressure cooker schools professors give out “A” to future doctors and “C” to future great scientists, they are stuck. At Brown, they can easily move on without a “C” on the transcript. For someone who wants to take a step back to become a great scientist (or go back to French/social sciences/classics) , a “C” will make their efforts more difficult down the road. From this aspect, Brown truly deserves to be a dream school (among other aspects). Wish you all the best of luck.

@feast1n8, call the financial aid office today and tell them that you accidentally marked that you don’t need aid when you do. It’s not a big deal. It won’t have any bearing on your admission decision. Deep breaths.

@feast1n8 : What does your FAFSA rankings look like? Is Brown on or near the top? It is well known (secret) that schools use FAFSA rankings as a factor in admissions decision (https://www.edvisors.com/fafsa/forms/tutorial/school-selection/order-colleges/). If indeed Brown is on or near the top, call them and give it a try. I have no idea what they will do honestly. But if you say Brown is on top of your FAFSA rankings, it will be more persuasive. As @suzy100 said, take a deep breath. You will be successful wherever you go.

@TheOldTimer, that used to be true, but colleges can no longer see what other schools are listed on the FAFSA. In some cases the order will matter for state aid, but that’s it. https://studentaid.ed.gov/sa/fafsa/filling-out/school-list

@suzy100 : My understanding is that schools can still see the top ten. Please correct me if this is not correct. Thanks.

@suzy100 : You are right. The list of colleges on the FAFSA is now only submitted to the state in which the student resides so that they can evaluate a student’s eligibility for state grants. Thanks for the correct information.

@TheOldTimer that just sounds ridiculous. Can’t believe they’d hold that against an applicant.

How can the FAFSA order be a predictor. I added colleges based on when I applied. I guess in some cases, you would apply to your most important colleges first. In my case, I sent in everything that didn’t have a supplemental essay, then finished up on the rest. Because I applied to 11 schools, I had to remove some from the list to add the others. You are saying that this comes into play when a school decides whether to offer me a spot or not??!?!?!?

@apdns19 : Beginning with the 2016-2017 FAFSA, colleges can no longer see the full list of colleges listed on the FAFSA. So this is no longer a factor.

Previously, colleges could see the full list of colleges on a student’s FAFSA. Research has shown that students are less likely to enroll at a college that appears further down the list. Accordingly, some colleges are less likely to admit students who demonstrate less interest in the college. Again, don’t worry about this now.

Simple solution, leaving Harvard and Stanford bottom of the list.

@TheOldTimer I get that the list is no longer visible, but seriously exactly what research has shown that students are less likely to enroll in students that are further down the list? There is nothing about that list that makes it a rank ordering. To my aged mind, it seems super silly to think that the order conveys anything whatsoever.

@profdad2021 : This is an example of big data analytics. Also, it is about perception and reality.

As opposed to “You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law (admissions committee).", in this case, you can’t remain silent. That is why FAFSA data is no longer shared with colleges.

BTW, for Yale in class 2021, the AO had first culled their list of close to 33,000 applicants to approximate 20,000 academically qualified applicants according to @BKSquared . My interpretation is that it is not a good sign if someone does not have an interview. (Why? Nobody would waste time on those who have been eliminated considering there were only 18,000 interviews.) Again, in no way I am implying that Brown is doing the way Yale does.

I mean it depends where you live etc, but according to my logic, and seeing that we live in the 21st century, anyone should be able to get interviewed. If you’d ask me “No interview = Bad sign”
 especially from a college (Brown) who indicates they try to do as much interviews as possible. Some colleges say they don’t do interviews (ex: NYU) so no need to worry about those.

Only using logic here lads, I do not have legitimate info/data about this matter. @TheOldTimer

Does any of you think those two Connecticut students (#1062) mentioned something related to pre-med in their applications? Look like one got into Brown. In reality, if someone did choose French/social sciences/classics as majors and said honestly in the essays they actually intended to do pre-med, would the person be admitted?

what is a mid year report, my guidance counselor said she doesn’t know what one is

@quinntheeskimo it is just your transcript with grades from the first semester.

they ask for both transcripts and mid year report so its a bit confusing

@quinntheeskimo : You do not send it. Your GC needs to send it. Colleges need it to see your fall semester grades before admissions decision. GCs usually automatically send it whether the colleges require it or not. I cannot believe your GC does not know this.