<p>In the MSAR book, it stated that, "In the 2005-2006 entering class, students, on average, were in the top one percent of their high school class and had achieved, on average, a score of 726 Verbal and 724 Mathematics on the SAT I." </p>
<p>Is this information accurate esp. the SAT scores? I thought they were a little low for a school like Brown.</p>
<p>My son is in this yr's PLME class but I don't know see the stats for this yr's class. In the literature he received, it states that PLMEs in the 2004/2005 class had 722V & 733M, top 1% but I imagine it has gotten tougher since then since higher #s are applying. 3 yrs ago, PLME had 1400 applications. This yr, PLME received 2019 applications. My son's SATs were higher (1560/1600).</p>
<p>I see, thank you. hmmm...I wonder what accounts for this sudden increase.</p>
<p>jerzgrlmom, how does your son like the program? is it too stressful or just challeging enough?</p>
<p>To be honest, he doesn't tell us much but he was independent all through school. We never saw his homework or heard about assignments or tests. He never asked for nor listened to our guidance regarding courses. As a freshman in HS, he met with the head of the Science dept and obtained special permission to take Honors Chem and AP Biology in 10th grade - normally students must take H Bio, H Chem, H Physics and then senior yr, they can choose AP level Bio, Chem or Physics. He wanted to take all 3 AP sciences to gain fuller exposure so he petitioned the school to allow this. When all was said and done, he told us about it. Same thing with senior yr, he took 6 APs against our advice and the GC's advice. He tends to do his own thing - which is why Brown appeals to him.</p>
<p>But, from the little he has said, I think there's a lot of reading and quite a bit of work. He spent most of this weekend sick (pneumonia) so he was complaining he has some catching up to do.</p>
<p>Not sure if it's done intentionally or not, but he has a lot of PLME kids in his dorm/complex. I think PLME organizes events for the group so the kids form some bonds. In his case, he met a bunch of PLMEs at accepted students day, so they kept in touch and seemed like friends upon arriving at school</p>
<p>Here's the official 2011 acceptances at Brown. It will give you a guage of acceptances.</p>
<p>Since Brown is one of the top schools even without PLME, would apply to PLME hurt my chances of getting into Brown? Has anyone heard or saw anything about that?</p>
<p>According to the PLME website, it won't hurt your chances for acceptance to Brown undergrad if you aren't chosen for PLME. You need to be accepted to Brown first, then they review those "accepted" and choose PLME candidates. You find out the decision at the same time. </p>
<p>From website:
" PLME applicant is, by definition, an applicant to Brown. Each PLME applicant is considered an applicant to both the College and the PLME. </p>
<p>There is only ONE application to Brown, the Brown College application. There is no separate application to the PLME. However, PLME applicants do need to complete form 3B which is included in the College application. </p>
<p>University policy dictates that no candidate for admission be denied solely on the basis of the degree program for which he or she seeks consideration. Therefore, those applicants not admitted to the PLME are still considered candidates to the College for the bachelor of arts or bachelor of science degree. </p>
<p>Candidates considered admissible by the College Admission Office are reviewed by the PLME Advisory Selection Board. Decisions are communicated to PLME applicants just as they are to other Brown applicants. It is expected that the number of PLME applicants will greatly exceed the places available each year. "</p>
<p>Here's a bit more about PLME from the webite - last year there were over 2000 applicants but the following data is for the prior year.</p>
<p>PLME Admissions at a Glance </p>
<p>As an example, for matriculation in 2006-07 there were 1651 applicants to the PLME. Of that number, 88 were offered admission to the PLME and an additional 99 were offered admission to other Brown degree programs. In fall 2006, 55 matriculated in the PLME and 56 matriculated in other Brown degree programs.</p>
<p>Students in PLME freshman classes were generally among the top one percent of their high school class. Students offered admission to the PLME for fall 2006 achieved an average score of 730 Critical Reading, 735 Mathematics, and 732 Writing on the SAT Reasoning Test.</p>
<p>Applicants, however, are not judged solely on the basis of test scores. Qualities of personal distinction, motivation, maturity, character, and intellectual breadth markedly influence the admission process.</p>
<p>For more info, here's the website:
<a href="http://bms.brown.edu/plme/Admission_to_Program.html%5B/url%5D">http://bms.brown.edu/plme/Admission_to_Program.html</a></p>
<p>I’m surprised this thread hasn’t been used recently…</p>
<p>there’s no superlong “official” PLME thread, so you just bumped a random old thread.</p>
<p>two more days x.x really hope i get into this</p>
<p>Hi, I am a junior in high school, and I am really interested in Brown PLME, in fact I know that it’s my first choice. If you recently got accepted into Brown PLME, please post your stats or any advice on how to get in. Thank you!</p>
<p>Hey NPP3594 - </p>
<p>I think it’s extremely difficult to estimate whether you’ll get in or not from perfunctory information you can share online - I’m PLME '13/'17, and in my opinion, there’s no one surefire way to get into PLME. They are certainly looking for students who show unusual dedication and interest in a medical career; they also seem to love students who have strong interests and performances in other fields of study besides your usual pre-med reqs. I’m basing this previous statement off the fact that most PLMEs I have met and talked to seem very, very different from each other in terms of interests outside of medicine - I myself am concentrating in either English or Comparative Literature, and I have PLME friends who are extremely interested, among other things, in public health systems, neuroscience, and history. There is a baseline of strong high school performance that Brown PLME expects, however, and it involves the usual: high exam scores, an excellent essay, strong extracurriculars. I’m inclined to think Brown puts more stock in the essay and extracurriculars than your scores, but that might just be my opinion. </p>
<p>These are my stats:
SAT - 2350
Verbal: 800, Math: 770, Writing: 780
SAT II -
Biology E: 770, Chemistry: 760, Math I: 710, Spanish: 730, Literature: 800, US History: 790
AP - 5s for European History, US History, English Lang, English Lit, Biology, Macroeconomics, and Spanish Lang
4s for Chemistry and Calc BC</p>
<p>I did two years of summer programs at different universities taking classes in anatomy and biomedical science and two years of summer research which I was a Siemens seminfinalist for. I was also vice-president of the Korean Culture Club, president of the Spanish Honor Society, and an editor in the school literary magazine. I also ran track for 2 years and played in the orchestra for all 4 years of high school. </p>
<p>This is most of the relevant information from my high school resume.
Hope it helps you!</p>
<p>I’m entering Brown/PLME this fall. Here are my stats, I’m glad to help. Feel free to ask me anything you like or PM me.</p>
<p>Objective:
SAT I (breakdown): 2330 superscored (M-790 CR-740 W-800)
ACT: 33 (Didn’t send)
SAT II: Math II-710 USH-740 Chem-800
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0):
Weighted GPA: 4.0
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): Top 4ish
AP (place score in parentheses): Chem-5 USH-5 Lang-5
Senior Year Course Load: AP Physics, AP Bio, AP Calc BC, AP Lit, AP Euro, Orchestra
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): None</p>
<p>Subjective:
Extracurriculars (place leadership in parentheses): Co-founded small charity organization (president), EMT Training, sports, on a high school game show, other random stuff
Job/Work Experience: Soccer referee, camp counselor
Volunteer/Community service: Ballboy at tennis tournament, town council, stuff with my synagogue, etc.</p>
<p>Writing (Rate Quality on 1-10 Scale; 10 as Best):
Common App Main: 7
EC Short Answer: 9
Teacher Recommendations: 9
Counselor Rec: 9?
Interview: None</p>
<p>Other:
State (if domestic applicant): OOS
School Type: Large public
Ethnicity: White
Gender: Male
Income Bracket: $150k+
Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): None</p>
<p>Reflection
Strengths: Extra-curriculars, SATs, GPA/Rank</p>
<p>Thank you very much, susiesuz and dextermorgan, for your help!!</p>
<p>also, susiesuz and dextermorgan: did you apply early decision to PLME or just regular decision… and do you think applying ED raises your chances significantly or not? Thanks :)</p>
<p>^^^^ ED does not raise chances significantly for any major university. Actually, it does not raise it at all. The fact that your applying to PLME means that ED and RD will be equally competitive-its just a matter of when you want to apply and also its just a matter of committing to the program
not that ive applied but ive talked to tons of brown plme attendees on here from past years</p>
<p>^^ can you explain further please? 
would ED then atleast increase your chances for acceptance into Brown just for regular universtty degrees and NOT plme?</p>
<p>nitcomp, sure, I will try to find statistics of Brown PLME and regular ED admissions. The acceptance rates are essentially the same-meaning that it is just as difficult. Colleges make it clear that there is no advantage in applying ED in terms of difficulty of acceptance-its just a matter of you commiting to the college. While it may seem like this indicates that you are very fond of Brown (or whatever college)-top tier universities will make sure, (and they release these sort of statements regarding ED)- that basically if you are admitted ED, then you would also be admitted RD. While this isnt a guarantee-what they are saying is-If you are not a qualified candidate-applying ED will NOT AT ALL increase your chances. If you are a qualified candidate-then there is no difference in applying ED or RD, other than the fact that you want to know earlier where you got in. </p>
<p>Do you get what I mean? Basically, ED acceptees are supposed to be just as qualified as RD acceptees, therefore dont expect it do be “easier” to get in if you apply ED. That makes no sense. That would mean that they have two standards for admissions-when this is not true. And that hopefully answers your second question-which is NO. Some colleges defer a lot of applicants if they feel you are a potential candidate. But unless you are a tremendous applicant-then you will have just as hard of a time getting in ED as RD. It doesnt have to do with applying to PLME</p>
<p>Lastly, applying RD has some benefits with regard to financial aid. Basically, if you apply/get in RD you can compare aid packages between colleges, so that some colleges will raise their financial aid. If you apply ED, you get what the college offers you with no comparison-and sometimes this makes ahuge difference financially.</p>
<p>tell me if that was helpful or not-ha</p>