Bulgarians - Accepted/Rejected?!

<p>actually this is the link i wanted to give you, i made a mistake last time
<a href="http://www.amherst.edu/admission/process/ssr08.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.amherst.edu/admission/process/ssr08.pdf&lt;/a>
and thanks</p>

<p>Accepted: IUBremen, Northwestern University
Waitlisted: Dartmouth
Rejected: Vsi4ki ostanali</p>

<p>Congratulations! Northwestern is great!
Are you going to enroll?
I'm enrolling today at Princeton, so excited</p>

<p>Mirela congratulations on your acceptances !! What hooks u have, if you dont mind ?</p>

<p>hello everybody,another bulgarian talking... well i didn<code>t do well on the SAT exam on Jan 22 and now i</code>m planing to retake it on 7 May, I have TOEFL on 20 April which is actually in 8 days. I screwed up i got 1000 on the SAT... such an idiot. Now i<code>m studying for the TOEFL exam bla bla bla... and i</code>m "packing" & "sending" my documents....i`ve got a recommendation from my English teacher...and there are several things i want to ask

so im not applying for the USA , its IUB, International University of Germany and , Aubg... can you give me a piece of advice , how many recommendations should i send .Ive read about 4-5-6 in the previous posts so i want to know.Is it "the most, the better"
and would it be helpful if i have been in international projects , a member of unicef , being a member of the youth parliament... participated in activities such as basketball ,football etc?
I have time till 1 June but i want to send me documents as soon as possible , just in case
Today i went to the school secretary and asked her to make me "akademichna spravka" , ... do i need my diploma as well? Couse i`ll get it in June or something?</p>

<p>Please answer my questions as soon as possible
Thanx in advance</p>

<p>Hey all! I'm from Sofia (zdrasti, Zayo :)).
Like Nasko, I got in Northwestern; they offered me fine need-based fin. aid. I was also accepted to Cornell, but they put me on the waiting list for aid. Also admitted to Grinnell with the typical 13k scolarship that I can use as toilet paper at best.
Amherst waitlisted me.
Ten other schools don't even want to know if I exist anymore :)</p>

<p>To be honest, I am SO disappointed with the way US college admission offices evaluate our applications. So far, I've heard of about 15 accepted Bulgarians. While there are certainly many applicants who have earned the Welcome cases they got, there are so many many many ones who don't deserve to study in the States more than most of those rejected. Furthermore, the admission offices are not doing them that much good sending them among students generally much more able.</p>

<p>Anyway; I don't think any of you fits the description above! :) Therefore,</p>

<p>CONGRATS!</p>

<p>By the way, can I stay on a waitlist at college A while paying an enrollment deposit at college B?</p>

<p>lorddragon04, there are actually much more Bulgarians who are accepted this year (about 50). I don't know if they are qualified enough but the ones I know personally definitely deserve what they have achieved.
You should not be so disappointed because Northwestern is a great school and you'd surely love it. </p>

<p>MikeBG, when it comes to recommendations - it is quality that they value, not quantity. Don't send more than 3 recommendations. For example, I had only 2. And, the more involvement you show in different extra-curricular activities, the better. I don't know nothing about diplomas (I used my grades from 9th, 10th and 11th grade only). May be someone who is better acquainted with this will be able to help you.</p>

<p>i dont think they require a diploma. you will have to send it to them when it's done, but for now an academic record (9-12) is enough. at least thats the case with aubg and the US unis</p>

<p>lorddragon04, hey niki:P i didn't know you were posting here. it's a nice and useful site, don't you think so? i could not agree more that a lot of extremely qualified studients have been rejected while plenty of (well let's call them) "not that promising" students were accepted to very good colleges and universitites. this just came to both assuage me and show me that these adcoms are really nuts. i would not like to sound like the fox that didn't reach the grape... but i really think it was luck that played the most important role in the admission process. again, i am not trying to belittle anoyone's achievements, but just feel upset about a lot of my friends, who have skills and potential, did put a lot of efforts, got nice scores and everything, but eventually got quite disappointed...well, lorddragon04, i suppose we can discuss this at school:P</p>

<p>p.s. lorddragon04, if you're not going to grinnell, you can pass that 13k to me instead of using them for toilet paper:P </p>

<p>p.s.2 yes, you can enroll to school A and still remain on the wait-list of school B. but if you then choose to enroll to school B, you'll lose the deposit for school A, 'cause it's non-refundable.</p>

<p>mirela, let's swap if you love Northwestern that much ! :) :) :)</p>

<p>I'm sure they are much more than 15... I know that currently there are about 3,000 Bulgarians studying in the USA. The figure would not be that impressive if so few applicants got in annually.</p>

<p>I know it's great; wouldn't have applied otherwise. Still, there are places I wanted to go more.</p>

<p>Now how about this: I'm in both Cornell and Northwestern, but am waiting for money at Cornell. Can I still enroll at NU? It's quite different from what I first asked.</p>

<p>lorddragon, yes, you can enroll to northwestern and still remain on the finaid wait-list of cornell. i'm 100% sure about that</p>

<p>mirela, congrats for princeton.</p>

<p>Where can i buy such book from ?? I have TOEFL on 20 apr so if you can give me an addresse i`ll be very thankful to you</p>

<p>Regards</p>

<p>zdraveite hora!!!</p>

<p>Congrats na vsi4ki, koito wlqzoha nqkade!</p>

<p>I'll keep my fingers crossed for the rest of you!</p>

<p>As for me, after working my ass off for 5 years, I got into several schools. Harvard, Yale, and Princeton being among the most notable ones.</p>

<p>Right know I am banging my head about where to go...</p>

<p>Good luck to ALL of you!!!</p>

<p>Mirela, I am the one to be glad to hear this :) Though I guess you applied to the College of Arts and Sciences, which means my chances won't improve, since I am in Engineering.</p>

<p>Nasko, in recent years, about 50% of the common admitees of Northwestern and Cornell chose Northwestern (Edit: I might be somewhat wrong about this fact). So even if they are as incomparable as black and white, the only reason to choose one over the other must obviously be personal fit.</p>

<p>mariela86, what got you into such terrific colleges in the merciless 2005 admission season? Congratulations! I believe you'll be among the few that continuously boost the reputation of Bulgarian students, and consequently, of future Bulgarian applicants, in the US. Because I think that unqualified applicants can often make their way to a top school (maybe even two), but never to several top schools.</p>

<p>on a sidenote, lorddragon, i think you should stop developing unhealthy hypotheses. you're making things up based on nothing :)</p>

<p>frolik, what exactly is an "uhealthy hypothesis" and which one of mine is such? What makes you think I am making up anything?</p>

<p>btw, you congratulated the wrong person two posts ago.</p>

<p>mariela86, have you made up your mind? :)</p>

<p>"Because I think that unqualified applicants can often make their way to a top school (maybe even two), but never to several top schools."</p>

<p>this is unhealthy thinking :) </p>

<p>i believe everyone who is admitted to a prestigious US school deserves credit. whether the person is admitted to 1 or 4 of them should not be basis to claim the person did not deserve it.
you must be aware that we compete with about 20-30 international students for financial aid and for a place in the colleges. besides, the admission process is extremely subjective - very few factors can distinguish 1 candidate among 20 others with the same exam results/high school record, and in most cases adcoms just go by their gut feeling or their general impression of the candidates' essays/recommendations.</p>

<p>I know several people who were admitted to a number of equally good schools, and several who were admitted to 1 or no schools. i think all of them deserve to study in the US and i do not like it when someone calls the latter "unqualified". sorry if you dont like what i'm saying, but you just dont have any basis to belittle people's achievements :) </p>

<p>i hope that i just misunderstood your point about unqualified students and that you didnt mean it :)</p>

<p>P.S. and sorry to mariela, i was skim-reading the pages so i mixed up your name and mirela's :)</p>

<p>frolik, i think you have misunderstood lorddragon. he did not mean that those who got in 1 or less schools are unqualified... i think his words were connected with his first post. so what he meant was that even though he thinks that some unqualified people have made their way to a top US college, that is not the case with mariela, because in his view an unqualified person wouldn't make it to so many great schools. am i right lorddragon, or have i also misunderstood you?</p>

<p>also, "in most cases adcoms just go by their gut feeling "...i think this is where the problem lays. when you're deciding somebody's fututre (i didn't mean it to sound so dramatic:P) you cannot simply follow your gut feeling... it is not fair...</p>

<p>they cant admit all of the applicants, can they? :) so they're forced to choose, epsecially when most of the applicants are asking for 10s of thousands of dollars in financial aid.</p>

<p>and do you agree that an "unqualified" applicant could make his/her way into a us college/university? i don't, especially when talking about bulgarians who need financial aid :)</p>

<p>well, frolik, unfortunately, i have to agree, because i have witnessed it:(</p>

<p>of course it is subjective, but sometimes it is really getting quite weird...</p>

<p>i do not want to belittle anybody's accomplishments as i have already said. just revealing some facts</p>