Business Major @ SDSU

<p>How reputable is SDSU's business major. SDSU seems like a great school and I will definately go there if I don't get into my other choices (ucsb, ucla, ucsd). So how good is their program? I would either do accounting, finance, or marketing. And assuming I get internships and have a good gpa, what are the chances for a person to land a great job in San Diego (where I want to live).</p>

<p>The best three schools in the San Diego area are UCSD, San Diego State, and Univ of San Diego. UCSD is mostly known as a sciences school, although it is possible to get a Business Economics degree with an Accounting specialty, but not a true Bachelors in Business Administration degree. For this reason, the business program at San Diego State is highly sought after for the local businesses. Plus San Diego State is one of the top of the Cal State Universities (Cal Poly SLO, Long Beach, Fresno, San Jose, San Diego, and Sonoma State are the top Cal States)--and the San Diego State undergraduate business program is ranked 77th in the country--which puts it behind UC Berkeley, USC, Santa Clara, and Pepperdine, but ties it with UC Riverside and puts it ahead of Univ of San Diego and San Jose State's programs.</p>

<p>To give you an idea how 77 ranks--this ties San Diego State with UC Riverside, Miami (FL), Clemson, Iowa State, Univ of Denver, Rutgers, Univ of Richmond, SUNY at Buffalo, and Temple.</p>

<p>Lastly I should mention that, along with Santa Barbara and Santa Cruz (where I live), San Diego has the best weather in the state of California--and the country overall. And San Diego is the largest city of these three (and probably has slightly cheaper housing than the other two).</p>

<p>Where does USD rank? Oregon? Where can I get a list of the rankings?</p>

<p>Univ of San Diego ranks just below San Diego State at 87--tied with 18 other schools. You have to pay $14.95 for the complete list--which can be purchased (online) at this site--and includes listing for national universities, medical schools, engineering schools, and graduate schools:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/rankindex_brief.php%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/rankindex_brief.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>P.S. I think a new list comes out in September or October--so you might want to wait to purchase the list until then--but that's your choice.</p>

<p>There were some previous posts in the business section of college confidential that ranks some of the schools in different areas like best accounting schools, best finance schools, etc. if you want to look those up.</p>

<p>actually calcruzer, ucsd doesn't offer a biz-econ degree. They have an econ degree with concentrations in finance and a management science degree.</p>

<p>I inadvertently posted UC San Diego above when I meant to post Univ of San Diego--I have now corrected it--thanks for noticing.</p>

<p>I thought UCSD offered an Econ degree with an Accounting minor.</p>

<p>P.S. The only three UCs with undergraduate business degrees are UC Berkeley, UC Riverside, and now--this year--UC Merced.</p>

<p>I have complained about the lack of an undergraduate business major at most of the UCs for a long time now--you can find my complaints on other threads in this business forum (look back in February and March to see these)</p>

<p>nope.. only a econ and management science.. in fact i don't think they even offer accounting courses :(</p>

<p>I know UCLA and UCSB offer Econ majors with an accounting "specialty" which means you take accounting courses (but not undergraduate business degrees)--didn't know that UCSD didn't even offer this along with their Economics degree.</p>

<p>Oh, and Oregon ranks #57 (tied with 8 other schools).</p>

<p>SDSU was ranked among the top 25 regional universities for entrepreneurs in the U.S. in Entrepreneur Magazine's Top 100 Colleges and Universities for Entrepreneurs list for 2005.</p>

<p>International Business is 9th in the nation</p>

<p>5th best pass rate on the CPA exam in the nation</p>

<p>UCSD will help you get an accounting minor and/or any certifications you throught its extension center. How does it work, not sure, but that is what it said on the site</p>

<p>Their extensions center can help one get an Accounting Minor? Thank goodness.</p>

<p>I can now try to minor in Accounting instead of Management Science while Joint Majoring in Math/Econ at UCSD >_<</p>

<p>what i would do is to take an undergraduate degree from san diego state and then a graduate degree from the new rady school at UCSD. wait for that unit to devlop and mature, and it won't take long.</p>

<p>bumppped</p>

<p>What steps can a UCSD student follow if he/she wants to major somewhere in the business field.</p>

<p>as i understand it UCSD is offering a graduate program only.
you might be able to take courses as an undergrad but your degree will be in econ for now.</p>

<p>I disagree with drj.</p>

<p>Why go to Rady at UCSD? </p>

<p>First, it's an MBA designed in particular for the San Diego Biotech / High tech fields so unless you have a technical background, UCSD Rady may not be a great fit. </p>

<p>Second, if you are going to pay 25k a year for an MBA, might as well go to UC Berkeley or UCLA Anderson. They are ranked higher and you will have more career options since they have a larger network with people working in all fields including consulting, investment banking, private equity and VC. You learn the most from your classmates in an MBA and the better school you go to, the higher caliber your classmates are. These people will become your network and in top schools, the network is probably more important than the material you learn in class.</p>

<p>Third, UCSD Rady may someday be ranked in the top 25 but I doubt it will get into top 15. At best, it maybe able to be on par with UT Austin McCombs and UNC Chapel Hill Business schools. Even if UCSD cracks into higher rankings, its network will still lag behind. Duke's Fuqua school started in 1970 only has 11,000 alumni and that is after 30 years. Compare this to Wharton at 80k, Kellogg at 50k, and UCLA,UCB, Stanford, MIT, HBS at around 25k to 35k in alumni.</p>

<p>I'm surprised drj or even savedbythebell7 hasn't responded on how I am wrong and that Rady will be a great program. </p>

<p>But lets look at their numbers and practices:</p>

<p>Full-Time MBA Profile
Entering Fall 2006</p>

<p>MBA Students enrolled: 58
Women 33%
International 34%</p>

<p>GMAT average 671 (Ph.D.s and M.D.s waived)
GPA average 3.2
Age average 29 (range 20 - 42)
Work experience average 5 years (range 0 - 14)</p>

<p>Educational backgrounds
60% hold undergraduate degrees in science, technology or engineering
18% hold advanced degrees, including:</p>

<p>M.S. or M.Eng. 5
Ph.D. 3
J.D. 1
Pharm. D. 1</p>

<p>Undergraduate majors represented
Engineering 23%
Life/Health Sciences 20%
Business/Economics/Finance 19%
Liberal Arts 19%
Computer Science 17%
Major industries represented
Biotechnology 14%
Military/Defense 10%
High Technology 8%
Computer Services 8%
Consumer Products 7%
Telecommunications 7%
Consulting Services 5%
Aerospace 5%
Health Care 5%
Pharmaceuticals 5%
Education 3%
Government 3%</p>

<p>Countries represented
Bulgaria
Canada
China
Ghana
India
Israel
Italy
Japan
Korea
Taiwan
Turkey
USA</p>

<p>MBA Class of 2007
Summer 2006 Internship Report
Total MBA Students 56
Sought summer employment 49
Accepted summer internship 100%
Started a new business as owner 2%
Did not seek summer employment<br>
Company sponsored 2
Pre-MBA employer 2
Other 1</p>

<p>Industry</p>

<p>Consulting Services 4%
Financial Services 22%
Government 2%
Manufacturing 2%
Biotech/Pharma 33%
Consumer Products 4%
Entertainment 4%
HighTech/IT/Telecom 29%
Energy 2%</p>

<p>Functions</p>

<p>Consulting 5%
Finance/Accounting 29%
General Management 4%
Human Resources 2%
Marketing/Sales 24%
MIS 13%
Operations/Production 5%
Business Development 16%
Other 2%</p>

<p>Companies Recruiting at Rady
24-Hour Fitness
Accenture
Actis Capital
Altegris Investments
American Life Science Pharmaceuticals, Inc.
Amphenol
Amylin Pharmaceuticals
Anklesaria Group
BeckStar Enterprises
Bekaert Group
Biogen IDEC
Biosite
Boardwalk Collaboration Software
Burger King Corporate
Cabrillo Advisors
Cathay-Life Insurance Co. Ltd.
Charlotte Hill Group
Chevron
Cisco Systems
Clarient, Inc.
Content Asia Network
Cornell Capital Partners
Cost Plus World Market
Diversified Entertainment
Enterprise Cars
Enterprise Partners Ventures
EnVision Solar
Farmers Insurance
Fresh Start Surgical Gifts
FuGuo Assets Management Genentech
Gap
GenVault Corporation
General Electric-Global Electronic Solutions
Hewlett-Packard
IBM
iChanneX
ImageWare Systems, Inc.
Intuit
Invitrogen
Johnson & Johnson
Kobe BioMedical Cluster
L'Oreal USA
MediKeeper
Merrill Lynch
Mission Ventures
Motorola
Novocell
Pfizer Global Research & Development
Polaris Securities Group
PreOrderTickets.com
Providence Equity
Publicis Hal Riney
QUALCOMM
RipCurl
San Diego Life Science Accelerator
SEM Director
Smith and Nephew
Solar Turbines
Sony
Spectrum Pharmaceuticals
Starbucks
Syngenta
Tarari
Target
The Scripps Research Institute
UBS
U.S. Navy
VidaGourmet
Visa USA
VMixMedia, Inc.
von Liebig Center, UCSD
Wellington Partners
Wired Red Software</p>

<p>First, all TOP programs have a GMAT average of about 700. 671 isn't bad, still a higher number than SDSU,USD, Pt. Loma and CSUSM program since it's a first year program but UCI's business school averages that too.</p>

<p>Second, top programs including Wharton, Kellogg and HBS are strong in biotech but also in every career category.</p>

<p>Third, no top program dismisses a GMAT for a ph.d</p>

<p>Fourth, top programs get recruited by Mckinsey, Bain, BCG plus bulge bracket Investment banks. </p>

<p>Until those conditions are met, UCSD will not be an elite school like Anderson or Haas.</p>

<p>well they have ML, UBS and a private equity fund recruiting along with top fortune companies. Not a bad start</p>

<p>Mckinsey is now recruiting from their undergrad, Ibanking is really more a focus for east coast schools, rather if they can lure capitol group, pimco, vanguard etc to hire their MBA students for research and portfolio manager positions, then i would consider them a top MBA. Rather i would be thrilled if they focused on asset management.</p>

<p>McKinsey, I know for a fact does not recruit at UCSD for undergrad. I do know that they have recruited a few UCSD grad students particularly in the Bioengineering department for there healthcare/biotech/pharma oriented practice. The only consulting firm that has recruited at UCSD just started this year was LEK mainly due to the fact that UCSD has a strong life science programs and their west coast practice is very biotech oriented. It also helps that a few members on their west coast office are UCSD alums but they are outnumbered by Stanford, Cal, Caltech and UCLA grads.</p>

<p>you know for a fact, yet mckinsey has UCSD listed on their website as a recruitment school as of last year for undegrad.</p>

<p>I have friends who were management science majors there and wanted to get into consulting. McKinsey did not visit the school and do an informational meeting for undergrads at UCSD or any on campus interviews. The "lowest" UC they did that for was UCLA (which I suppose wasn't even visit this year at their consulting fair since they didn't list it on there website) . I know Bain visits UCLA at that fair since a friend of mine doing a ph.d in engineering is trying to get a job with them after graduation.</p>

<p>Another tidbit, look on facebook for Mckinsey and you will not see any UCSD grads working there as well. If McKinsey did recruit from UCSD, it would resume collection which are screened by recuiters. In that case, anybody from any school has an equal chance assuming they have outstanding qualifications.</p>

<p>If you look at the website, most schools like UW have the same information. Basically, the round 1 interviews are going to be only for "outstanding" candidates where they would likely do all non target school top candidates at once. Schools like Stanford and Berkeley have actual school visits.</p>