<p>Go to MYBYU, School tab, my financial center tab.</p>
<p>What did you guys get? I got the Heritage Scholarship :)</p>
<p>Heritage! :-)<br>
I may be wrong, but I think the Monson Scholarship is a special type of Heritage Scholarship. Perhaps Monson scholars will be notified later, after they have confirmed enrollment in the school? (Otherwise, how does BYU insure that they have exactly 50 Monson Scholars in a given year…?)</p>
<p>For those that got the Heritage did you all get the full 8 semesters?</p>
<p>Several people I know that applied last year got only one semester, but ours stated the full 8 semesters this time.</p>
<p>Out of curiosity what kind of stats do you have, and is BYU your only choice?</p>
<p>OH… and congratulations to those that received scholarships!!! It is a real honor!</p>
<p>GPA: unweighted was 3.98 and 4.6 weighted
ACT: 34
10 AP classes throughout high school
AP Scholar with Distinction
Boys’ State
National Merit Commended Scholar
Speech and Debate contestant in CA state and National championships
ASB President
Varsity Water Polo 3 years
Golf/Swimming 3 years
Early Morning Seminary
Mock Trial 2 years lead attorney</p>
<p>Yes, it was for the full 8 semesters. And yes, is the Monson something they decide later or have those already gone out? Because like LDS3993 said, what if they gave it to someone who decided on like Columbia or Harvard or somewhere else instead? And congrats to all!!! I want to meet you all there so I’m going to privately message all of you! hahaha</p>
<p>and yes, BYU was the only place I applied. It’s a long story, but after studying it out and much prayer and visiting the campus, I knew it was where I was supposed to go. But I really struggled for a while there about whether or not to apply to all the ivy-leagues. I came to the conclusion that the prestige, secularism, and debt can wait until graduate school :)</p>
<p>By the way guys, I called the BYU scholarship office this morning and they said that they had already notified the recipients of the Monson/Presidential scholarships, so we didn’t get it. 
But congrats to those who did! I’m sure they are quite the high-caliber group of kids!!</p>
<p>ACT 35
GPA: 4.0 unweighted, 4.3 weighted (Top 1% in high school class of 490),
2280 SAT, 790 SAT II USH, 790 SAT II Math II,
National Merit Commended
Eagle Scout w/ 4 eagle palms
Early morning seminary, 4 years, Stake President’s Award & 2 year scripture mastery champ.
Science and Ocean Bowl’s Co-captain
1st place at 53rd CA JCL convention
2nd place at National History Day in Maryland, 2008
Paid summer office internship at a non-profit, 2010
Science Olympiad, District Science Fair, web design business, varsity show choir, comedy sportz team.</p>
<p>I applied to Stanford, Yale and Dartmouth (got my application fees waived :-). I’m not expecting much, but even if one of them accepted me, I’m still leaning BYU.</p>
<p>WOW! You two have AMAZING stats! I can’t even imagine what the Monson scholars have:)
Congrats on your scholarships, and keep us posted when you do finally decide. </p>
<p>BTW What are your majors, and will you be part of the Honors college?</p>
<p>Either International Relations or Economics, and not going to do the Honors program. Talked with several people who have done it or who did some of it and they overwhelmingly agreed that (despite what the Honors Program says on their website) unless you are doing a humanities major or have an acute interest in literature/art/theater/humanities, it is a ton of work and there is a great deal of unrelated work if you are going to grad school in law, business, or medicine. </p>
<p>I DO plan to take many of the major-related courses in the honors form, like Pl Sc 201 H, which is the honors form of the same class, but NOT the Honrs department classes like honors pl sc 201 equivilant “Honrs 201” about things like “The Pen and the Sword” or “The Western Tradition in the Arts.” I am after the in-depth historical, geographic, economic, and political aspects of the major, and less of the philosophical/related-to-art/great works aspects.</p>
<p>But for all those who are pursuing such knowledge, by all means, dive into the Honors Program! Just be sure you know the all the work required in order to graduate with honors.
[Overview[/url</a>]</p>
<p>Here’s a yearly plan of what you can expect: it’s also found at [url=<a href=“http://honors.byu.edu/HonorsStudents/YearlyPlan.html]Year-by-year”>http://honors.byu.edu/HonorsStudents/YearlyPlan.html]Year-by-year</a> recommended work-load](<a href=“http://honors.byu.edu/ProspectiveStudents/overview.html]Overview[/url”>http://honors.byu.edu/ProspectiveStudents/overview.html) I’m sure it’s a very enriching experience, but like I said, quite a bit of additional work for non-humanities majors.</p>
<p>First Year</p>
<p>First Semester</p>
<pre><code>* 6-7 total Honors credits, including Honors 1st Year Writing (Honrs 150, Engl 150H, or Phil 150H) – 3 credits. It is also suggested that you take our Honrs 292R Progressing in Honors Seminar – 1 credit.
- 2 Great Work experiences in each category and 2 Great Works responses.
- Start putting together your portfolio and add the semester summary.
- Sit down and plan out which university core credits you will fulfill with Honors credits
- Fill out your first online progress report.
</code></pre>
<p>Second Semester</p>
<pre><code>* 6 more Honors credits (2 “Honrs” classes).
- 3 Great Works experiences in each category and 2 Great Work responses.
- Add your semester summary and some of your best work to your portfolio
- Attend the Honors Symposium during winter semester.
- Fill out an online progress report.
</code></pre>
<p>By the end of the year</p>
<pre><code>* 12-13 total Honors credits.
- 5 Great Work experiences in each category and 4 Great Works responses.
- Have submitted current progress reports
- Begin compilation of your portfolio with semester summaries and some academic work.
</code></pre>
<p>Second Year</p>
<p>First Semester</p>
<pre><code>* 3 Honors credits (1 Honors class)
- A foreign language class or placement credit.
- Attend thesis orientation
- 3 Great Work experiences in each category and 2 Great Works responses.
- Add your semester summary and some of your best work to your portfolio.
- Make a plan to fulfill the service requirement.
- Fill out an online progress report.
</code></pre>
<p>Second Semester</p>
<pre><code>* 3 Honors credits (1 Honors classes).
- A foreign language class if needed.
- Create a plan to finish the curriculum requirement.
- 2 Great Works experiences in each category and 2 Great Work responses.
- Add your semester summary and some of your best work to your portfolio
- Attend the Honors Symposium during winter semester.
- Meet with departmental Honors coordinator.
- Fill out an online progress report.
</code></pre>
<p>By the end of the year</p>
<pre><code>* 18-19 total Honors credits
- 10 Great Work experiences in each category and 8 Great Works responses.
- Have submitted current progress reports
- Thesis orientation attended.
- Semester summaries and some academic work in your portfolio.
</code></pre>
<p>Third Year</p>
<p>First Semester</p>
<pre><code>* Advanced Math class (Honrs 250, Math 112, 113, 119, Phil 305, Pl Sc 328, Psych 301, or Stat 221)
- 1 Great Work experience in each category and 1 Great Works response
- Add your semester summary and some of your best work to your portfolio.
- Submit thesis proposal and begin work on thesis.
- Fill out an online progress report.
</code></pre>
<p>Second Semester</p>
<pre><code>* Honors credits as needed (may include Honrs 300 Thesis Writing class: 3.0 or Honrs 290 Great Works class: 1.0-3.0)
- 1 Great Works experience in each category and Great Work response.
- Add your semester summary, some of your best work, completed Great works log, and responses to portfolio.
- Attend the Honors Symposium during winter semester.
- Continue working on thesis.
- Fill out an online progress report.
</code></pre>
<p>By the end of the year</p>
<pre><code>* 22 total Honors credits (completed curriculum requirement)
- 12 Great Work experiences in each category and 12 Great Works responses (completed Great Works requirement).
- Have submitted current progress reports
- Thesis proposal approved and work begun on thesis.
- Semester summaries, some academic work and completed Great Works logs and responses in portfolio.
</code></pre>
<p>Fourth Year</p>
<p>First Semester</p>
<pre><code>* Honors credits as needed
- Attend mandatory graduation meeting.
- Add service evaluation, semester summary and some of your best work to your portfolio
- Finish entire first draft of thesis.
- May request Honors letter of recommendation for graduate school applications.
- Fill out an online progress report.
</code></pre>
<p>Second Semester</p>
<pre><code>* Honors credits as needed
- Revise and finish thesis
- Complete portfolio: add faculty references, ABC report and final online progress report.
- Turn in completed portfolio and final thesis draft.
- Defend thesis.
- Submit four final thesis copies.
- Attend commencement and graduation luncheon
</code></pre>
<p>By the end of the year</p>
<pre><code>* Completed all requirements for graduation with University Honors: curriculum, service, GPA, thesis, Great Works and portfolio.
</code></pre>
<p>And for everyone’s clarification, this is in ADDITION to the other requirements, classes, and seminars necessary for your individual major.</p>
<p>Just curious. What do you intend to do with an Intl Relations or Econ degree from BYU? I’m assuming your thinking law school in the future…</p>
<p>If you do econ, which degree (BS or BA) are you going to do? The number of credits required for those degrees is so low compared to other majors (37 hours for BS Econ; 94 hours for BS MechEng) makes me wonder if econ is a “sportsman’s” major like sociology.</p>
<p>Probably go to law school, but if not, pursue graduate work in a related field. </p>
<p>If I did econ, I’d either double major with political science, or do the BA, which is 40-57 hours of work in the major, but still 120 hours total. Don’t get me wrong, but a lot of college is what you make of it, and if I wanted to slack off, I wouldn’t choose econ–I’m pretty sure you can’t be a college “sportsman” and be taking 400 and 500 level econ classes, and master a foreign language. The other 80-63 hours to fill my graduation requirements I’d take just as many challenging courses, because I want to be prepared for the future. </p>
<p>Economics=not a sportsman’s degree. Check out these articles, they may give a little food for thought–</p>
<pre><code>BYU seventh in the nation for grads that get Ph.D.s
Best Undergrad College Degrees By Salary
</code></pre>
<p>Hours in the major don’t always equate to difficulty of a major.</p>
<p>Whoa… I wasn’t busting on your choice of major. I pretty much agree with everything you wrote and I’m really just curious as to what you would do with those majors. And, BTW, you don’t have to sell me on BYU and how good it is. I already know - I graduated from BYU many moons ago. Back then, sociology was the sportsman’s major - lots of athletes in that major. My questions to you were simply put out to gather some info for my D.</p>
<p>Based on your response, I still wonder about what strong students (like you) will do with those specific majors (if they are not already planning to go to grad school). I know students who are at BYU now studying in those fields and they aren’t sure what they will do when they finish. In a rough job market, that uncertainty can be very stressful. I also have other friends who have graduated from BYU with those degrees and they are doing things that don’t even require a college degree, let alone a degree in IR or econ. For this latter group, part of the problem might be that where they chose to live (Hawaii) has only a limited market for people holding those degrees and a lot of that market is covered by UH graduates. </p>
<p>Given those facts, I’m still left to wonder if those degrees are marketable right out of BYU undergrad. I would imagine that an IR degree from an east coast school (Gtown, GW, etc.) would be more marketable due to pure geographic location, i.e.- close to the seat of government. As for econ, do companies even hire non-PhD economists anymore? </p>
<p>Since you seem to be the CC expert on all things BYU, do you know how many/what type of companies come on-campus to recruit undergrads in those majors (IR and econ)? Or, are those majors the kind where you are almost required to go to graduate school to get a job? </p>
<p>I’ve been out of the game for a while and have two years to gather some info before my D goes to college. Interestingly enough, she likes both of those majors. Since I’ll have to pay for it, I’m hoping for the biggest bang for my buck and just trying to do my due diligence before I make an investment… :)</p>
<p>My apologies! I am sorry that, that did come off as rude and combative. </p>
<p>I cannot claim to be an expert on everything BYU, as I do not even attend yet. I have pretty much no knowledge about where BYU undergrads get hired/go if they don’t chose grad school. But, I do know that BYU has career and employment services to help people get recruited, as the links below can relay you to:</p>
<p>[Home</a> | University Career Services](<a href=“Home”>Home)</p>
<p>The engineering school has their own: [BYU</a> - Page Not Found](<a href=“http://www.et.byu.edu/jobs-internships]BYU”>http://www.et.byu.edu/jobs-internships)</p>
<p>There is a global-focus one: [Welcome</a>! | Global Career](<a href=“http://globalcareer.byu.edu/]Welcome”>http://globalcareer.byu.edu/)</p>
<p>And they have a Kronos web-portal system: <a href=“https://kronprod.byu.edu/wfc/applications/wtk/html/ess/logon.jsp[/url]”>https://kronprod.byu.edu/wfc/applications/wtk/html/ess/logon.jsp</a></p>
<p>and here is a general link to give confidence that your D. would be able to get some bang for your buck: [BYU</a> ranks 11th in eyes of recruiters, says The Wall Street Journal](<a href=“http://news.byu.edu/archive10-sep-recruiterranking.aspx]BYU”>http://news.byu.edu/archive10-sep-recruiterranking.aspx)</p>
<p>And back to econ, I don’t know how many people are hired necessarily as “economists” with just an undergrad, but I’m sure that the econ degree has many principles and knowledge in the discipline that provide the skills to become a myriad of positions/titles in the business world. </p>
<p>Companies: This is a list of all the companies that attended last year’s BYU career fair. I’m sure it’ll be similar when your D. goes there: [url=<a href=“http://www.experience.com/emp/cf_registered_employers?fhnd=4844]experience.com[/url”>http://www.experience.com/emp/cf_registered_employers?fhnd=4844]experience.com[/url</a>]</p>
<p>IR and econ: This is the quote from the IR site at BYU directly.
“Career Opportunities
This major gives students a strong liberal arts education along with useful technical skills. In addition to substantive knowledge, international relations majors will learn analytical concepts and ideas that allow them to organize, explain, and make sense of relations between states and comparisons among them. High proficiency in math and statistics, writing, and a foreign language will prepare for a wide variety of career pathsincluding, but not limited to, government, law, business, and international organizations. Many career paths will require graduate-level training. Therefore, the degree should be seen as certifying fluency in the ideas and methods of multiple fields so that students can find and pursue their own specialized interests rather than as a terminal degree.”</p>
<p>as for Econ, here’s what their site says for that:
Career Opportunities
Professional economists basically work in three fields. Some work in business, others in government, and some choose academic careers. The lifestyles of these groups vary greatly, making the decision of which career to adopt an important one.</p>
<p>Business economists forecast and analyze various aspects of the economy for their employers. They often work for banks, insurance companies, investment firms, and large manufacturing firms. The career of business economics is increasingly recognized as one of the routes to top management (National Association of Business Economists, 1989).</p>
<p>Government economists accumulate, interpret , and analyze national and international statistics in order to suggest proper policy. They work for agencies such as the State Department, the Treasury, the Bureau of Labor Statistics, and the Department of Commerce. The jobs available in government are numerous and varied.</p>
<p>Academic economists teach and conduct research at colleges and universities around the world.</p>
<p>Students should refer to eRecruiting on the bar above to reference the Counseling and Career Center’s eRecruitment page and register to link to the myriad of employers who are searching for BYU graduates.</p>
<p>Hope that provides some of the info you were looking for! 
Sorry about that!</p>
<p>You ARE the resident BYU expert. You should sign up to be a campus guide. Thanks for the info.</p>
<p>I think I’m going to try to convince my D to study Acct. I’m too risk averse. I want her to get recruited and get paid right away; not have to go hunt for a job. I’d rather play the odds…</p>
<p>Yeah, I hear they have an amaaaazing accounting program. I’m sure she’d get hired right away! I hope she can stomach it… haha ;)</p>