<p>Sorry! Just wanna get an idea:</p>
<p>Bball: 71ft
Pull-ups: 13
Shuttle: 8.6s
Sit-ups: 51
Push-ups: 50
Mile: 8:10</p>
<p>I'm male and I should say that we are in the middle of football season so my body is somewhat worn out. That is no excuse, but it may attribute to some of the poorer scores. Would this be competitive? I feel strong about my bball, pull-ups, and shuttle.</p>
<p>For USMA you must pass every event to pass the CFA. In addition, the CFA counts for 10% of your whole candidate score so you want to “do your best”.
USMA does not publish minimum scores. Aim to achieve at least the “average” score - listed below with the maximum in parentheses<br>
Basketball throw 67 ’ (102’)
Pull-ups 9 (18)
shuttle run 9.1 sec (7.8)
sit-ups 72 (95)
push-ups 54 (75)
mile run 6.43 min (5.20)</p>
<p><a href=“http://admissions.usma.edu/prospectus/CFA_Instructions05.pdf[/url]”>http://admissions.usma.edu/prospectus/CFA_Instructions05.pdf</a></p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>I know they don’t publish the minimums, but when my son was at SLS, they received a sheet with their scores and they were starred if there were any that failed (in which case they were told to take it again at home). From talking to his squadmates, he got a fair idea of what was passing at least, and some of the standards were much lower than I expected (ie. lower 30’s in pushups for guys was still passing, but obviously wouldn’t score very highly overall). From what he told me, I’d be confident that the first 5 you list were well into the passing range. My only concern would be the mile - he’s a runner, and it seemed like most people he knew ran in the upper 5 minute to lower 6 minute range so I don’t have an idea where that cutoff is. </p>
<p>If you really think it’s just because you’re tired and you could do better on the mile, I’d wait and try again before submitting the scores. He did well on his Navy SS CFA, but then went right to Army and didn’t do well on the CFA there (because he was tired from the previous week). Over the summer he did his CFA for AF, and when he tried to resubmit the scores to West Point, they gave him a really hard time about it because he had already “passed” (albeit with low scores in a couple of the areas).</p>
<p>From my son’s experience, I think they like to see the mile time under 8:00 — that said, with strong scores in other areas, the mile time might be okay from the perspective that while they have you at Beast, they will work you out to improve your mile time tremendously. </p>
<p>I am with Marciemi: If you think there is any way you can get a better mile time and still maintain the strong scores you had in other areas, I would try again before submitting.</p>
<p>I already submitted and its green and I have not been contacted by Admissions saying I failed, like a friend of mine was. My mile really surprised me, I generally run a 6:20ish mile, but I took the test during the week when I have football. My shins are all banged up and that probably could explain for the weak time. I’ll definitely run after football is over and my legs are refreshed.</p>
<p>Get your mile down towards 7:00. You can take the CFA again and again util the class is filled.</p>
<p>To expand, quoting MAJ Belmont, DAD NE USMA:</p>
<p>Take the CFA as many times as you wish. However, bear in mind that it constitutes only about 10% of your overall file strength… once you’ve passed it, I’d recommend you leave the score alone. Your time would be better spent studying for & retaking the SAT/ACT than practicing for hours a day trying to throw that damn basketball a few feet further (and risking blowing out your rotator cuff in the process). </p>
<p>Primary choice for CFA administerer (that’s not really a word, is it?) is a phys. ed teacher. Secondary choice would be an active/reserve commissioned officer / NCO, or a Military Academy Liaison Officer (MALO), aka a Field Force representative. If no other options are available, a coach of ANOTHER sport could administer the CFA but not the coach of a sport in which the candidate participates. I am not sure how much of that is in a regulation somewhere, but that is my guidance for candidates from the Northeast region, and I believe that other Regional Commanders have similar guidelines. </p>
<p>All the service academies share scores AT THE REQUEST OF THE CANDIDATE. It’s not like DoDMERB where we can all see your status by logging into some central database. If you went to USNA’s SLS and kicked butt on the CFA there, but are also applying to USMA, no sense in retaking the CFA, just write to your USNA admissions rep and ask them to send us your scores. Happens all the time.</p>
<p>Hope this helps, have a great Labor Day weekend, all! </p>
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<p>MAJ Jonathan T. Belmont
West Point Admissions
Northeast Regional Commander</p>
<p>“Take the CFA as many times as you wish.”</p>
<p>That is a change from what candidates in the SE region have been told in the past. Do you know when the policy changed?</p>
<p>Allow me to clarify… I’m the Northeast regional commander and I have no problem with candidates taking the test as many times as they’d like. Other regions handle more than one test on a case-by-case basis. The Southeast Regional Commander and I were CBT squadmates back in the day… we talked about this specific issue and neither of us could find it in any WRITTEN policy, so I think it is up to each RC.</p>
<p>Just wanted to clarify that unless things have changed in the past two years, the CFA test administrator MUST be a certified teacher of physical education…my son first took the CFA under his track coach. The coach was hired by the school system to coach track and cross country, but he was not certified as a phys ed teacher. Admissions sent it back and gave him permission to retake. His JROTC Col administered the second one, and it was accepted. Somehow we thought as long as the test administrator was a coach, he would be okay. But when the directions were re-read, it did specify that only certified instructors in the field of phys ed would be acceptable.</p>
<p>The instructions on the admissions website read: </p>
<p>“The CFA MUST be administered by a physical education teacher from the candidate’s high school, a Military Academy Liaison Officer, or a military officer. CFAs administered by any other person WILL NOT be accepted. For example coaches who are not PE teachers are not acceptable.”</p>
<p><a href=“http://admissions.usma.edu/prospectus/CFA_Instructions05.pdf[/url]”>http://admissions.usma.edu/prospectus/CFA_Instructions05.pdf</a></p>
<p>These are my scores…</p>
<p>Pull ups- 12
Push ups- 62
Sit Ups- 65
B Ball Throw- 66
Shuttle- 8.2
Mile- 6:14</p>
<p>I think it’s good except sit ups</p>
<p>These are mine:</p>
<p>Pullups - 8
Pushups - 75
Situps - 79
Basketball Throw - 68
Shuttle - 9.0
Mile - 7:52</p>
<p>I took this test when I attended SLS this past summer and I did pass, even though my scores aren’t great. For some reason, I feel like the shuttle run you guys are doing are much different than what we did. I got 9.0 seconds flat on the shuttle run and placed in the top 10 of 550 candidates that went to SLS which is odd…</p>
<p>Regardless, maxout on whichever you can! In my opinion, go for the ones that you can most quickly improve which in my opinion is the basketball throw and pushups/situps</p>