Chance a Rising Junior for Wharton ED and others (using some PROJECTED stats)

Chance Me / Match Me!
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<p>Name: monstor344, but you can call me whatever you'd like.</p>

<p>Academics (all of this is concrete information)
UW GPA: 3.95
W GPA: School does not calculate
Rank: School does not calculate but I would put myself in the top 5% of my class
Rigor: Taking all honors courses; APs not offered until junior year (well, our high school is switching to an AT format, actually...)</p>

<p>SATs (these are the stats that do not as of yet exist; I am projecting them based upon my strengths and how students at my school with comparative grades fare)
SAT: M: 800, CR: ~730, W: ~750
SAT2: Chem: 800 (this score already exists), MathII: 800, Physics: 800, USH: not sure if I should take, wouldn't be an 800 but it would diversify me...right?
ACT: I don't think that I will even take this; opinions?</p>

<p>ECs (based on what already exists and what I will continue to do)
Baseball: JV (9), varsity (10-12), captain (12); scroll down to Hook for more information
Track: Cross country (10), winter track (11-12)
Clubs: Nothing but Nets (campaign against malaria in Ghana) (10-12), Math team (11-12), A/V club (11-12), school's honors tutoring program (11-12)
Other: Piano for 10-11 years, guitar for 3 years, black belt in Tae-Kwon-Do (I haven't done this since I was 13), Chinese school on Saturday mornings, 3 hours each class, for 13-14 years, making electronic music as a hobby for 3 years
Awards: AMC10 118.5 (I really screwed myself and just missed the AIME qualifying mark), some small scholarship award for being the best student in my Chinese school's class (not sure what the name of it is, but my school informed me that I will likely receive it next year). Hopefully a few AIME tests in the future; probably no USAMO.</p>

<p>State: NY
High school type: Elite public high school, sends 15-20% to Ivy league and schools of that caliber
Ethnicity: Biracial; half Asian, half Caucasian
Income: >$100,000
Tips: Legacy: parents met at Penn; father in Penn law, mother in Wharton GRAD (I've heard from admissions officers that Penn considers grad school as legacy, plus my mother is a very active member on the board. Neither parent has given any endowments to the school, however)</p>

<p>Hook: Recruited athlete? For anyone with knowledge in college baseball, I am a left-handed pitcher who throws about 80-81 MPH. Apparently that alone makes me recruitable if I keep my academics high, but I'm trying to get stronger in order to increase my velocity and hopefully be contacted by Ivy and D3 schools. As for now, however, assume that I WILL NOT be recruited; I will update this section in the future if that changes.</p>

<p>Schools I am interested in:
Penn (Wharton only)
MIT
UChicago
Columbia
Dartmouth
Harvard
Princeton
Amherst
Swarthmore
Harvey Mudd
Berkeley
Stanford
Rice
Binghamton (in-state)</p>

<p>Chancing me at the aforementioned schools would be appreciated, as well as recommendations for other schools that would fit my profile, and even some safeties. I am hoping to major in business, economics, or engineering; I am undecided in which one to choose as of now. Also, I do realize that this prospective list of schools will considerably narrow by the time that I send out applications.</p>

<p>On a final note, if I were recruited by all of the above schools (except for Stanford and Rice, where I have virtually no chance at recruitment), by how much do my chances increase?</p>

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<p>good god.
you should get in to more than half of those schools.
as long as you follow through on the multiple 800’s…</p>

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<p>Thanks, but can you elaborate a little more on that? Also I know my ECs aren’t very distinguished, any suggestions regarding those?</p>

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<p>If you want to go to Penn… apply early or REJECT.</p>

<p>But if you do apply early, great chances.</p>

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<p>ED- Accept
RD- Waitlist => Reject</p>

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<p>if you have Penn legacy, i think RD acceptance is reasonable (given all of your SATs are as predicted and your essays and recs are strong).</p>

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<p>I’m curious as to why the difference between ED and RD is so stark in this situation.</p>

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<p>Sometimes, legacy is only noticed in Early Decision, whereas in RD there are so many applications to go through that it becomes convoluted and hectic to separate applications, etc. etc.</p>

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<p>Oh, okay. Thanks for clearing that up a bit.</p>

<p>Also, although Wharton might be my top choice at the moment, it might not be if I reconsider what major I want to study in college. A lot can change in 18 months, so it would be wonderful if people would tell me which schools on my list I have the best chances of making. Also, I know my list needs both refining and the addition of more matches/safeties, so any suggestions would also be greatly appreciated.</p>

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<p>Bump…it would be greatly appreciated if I was chanced at schools other than Wharton as well.</p>

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<p>Bump…How much do my chances increase as a recruited athlete, and even if I do not get recruited, how do I far at schools other than Wharton?</p>

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<p>You look good for Wharton if you apply ED. Penn makes clear that the legacy boost is much greater ED. This is by far your best chance at an uber top school.</p>

<p>If you get recruited, you would be in at all these schools. If not you have an uphill battle being Asian and from NY. That is one of the most competitive pools at top schools. HPS will want better EC’s and higher test scores. The other ivies more probable with an CR score over the 730. They get a ton of 800 math candidates but want very high CR too. 75th percentile starts at 770 at mid and top ivies, in your pool you want to be at least at the 75th percentile.</p>

<p>It also largely depends on whether higher stats students are applying from your high school.</p>

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<p>Thanks for the feedback. The CR score will probably vary depending on much much time I dedicate to prepping for it…I could probably work my way into the upper 700s but at the same time that would take significant commitment and hard work that could be spent elsewhere. Do people here think that a boost in CR is worth that?</p>

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<p>If you have a European last name, keep your Asian heritage to yourself. Don’t mention this in your application. Otherwise, you’ll be placed into the Asian admissions bucket with obvious implications.</p>

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<p>Would it be better to no select a race at all? Or would this alone make colleges think that I am an ORM trying to hide my race?</p>

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<p>Penn application has “optional” photo. Ask yourself: Why do most schools ask for applicant photos? Do your facial features or skin tone make your Asian-heritage obvious? Therefore, does selecting no racial category at all make it look like you are hiding something?</p>

<p>Obviously, if your father is Asian, the whole issue is moot. No way that “John Wang” is going to be considered as a “white” applicant, unless you are 1/4 or less Asian and look like Ryan Seacrest.</p>

<p>Do you personally believe that your Asian heritage will help or hurt your chances for admission. Be honest.</p>

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<p>A higher CR score would improve your chances significantly at most of your schools. They all get a lot of Asian applicants from NY with an 800 math. If you ED Penn, I think you’re OK.</p>

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<p>I do believe my Asian heritage will hurt my chances, of course, unless I put down that I’m Caucasian, which I also believe will hurt my chances but to a lesser extent. And some people say I look Caucasian, others Asian, so I’d most likely rather not take the chance of having my photo on my app.</p>

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<p>ya make AIME, its more important than your SAT Math score.</p>

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<p>I sure hope I will next time around. I literally missed the cutoff this year by 1.5 points. Had I simply left one of the questions that I got wrong blank, I would have qualified.</p>