Chance: Ivy League schools with low SAT

<p>Given the following conditions:
1.Assuming one's SAT is 1600/2400.
2.Assuming that
A. the person has a great college essay / personal statement (assuming of which are all approved by schools officials / admission officers)
B. the person has good ECs that are proven to be dynamically active in the community.
C. the person is the first generation college applicant
D. the person has financial difficulty
E. the person suffers from physical trauma early in life (i.e. Lead poisoning that degrades brain functionality permanently)
F. the person has a limited time (7 years out of 18 years) spent in the United States as an immigrant
G. the person is an underrepresented minority (Asian)
H. the person fits school's community
I. the person has a GPA of 95.18 is ranked 4/111 in a NYC Public High School
J. the person is taking 4/3 APs available, given by his/her school, of one which is an AP language exam that is his/her native language.</p>

<p>Chance the person's admission rate for
I. Brown University
II. Cornell University
III. NYU
IV. Carnegie Mellon</p>

<p>Any chances?</p>

<p>Would be great if anyone can chance it</p>

<p>Asian is not as important to these dumb elitist schools as “Muslim”“Hispanic” or you come from a family of homeless people. Best to not get your hopes up with SATs below 2100. Apply to schools which have the BEST program you are interested in, not the best “prestige.” On the other hand, if this person is start athlete in a sport, well, that changes everything. Just my 2 cents. </p>

<p>Asian is not URM. You (or whoever this person may be) have no chance at Brown, Cornell, and CMU. I don’t know enough about NYU, but you probably have no chance there either. </p>

<p>Even given the circumstances?</p>

<p>Some of those schools get so many applications that a computer will probably boot the app out based solely on the SAT score. There are some really great schools that are not as competitive as the ones you’ve listed that the person might want to look at too. If I were the person, I would have at least a couple of those safety schools on the list. </p>

<p>Take a look at the Common Data Set for each college you’re interested in and find the range of SAT scores they accept. I’m not an expert, but I think your scores have to be within their range for the rest of your application to even be considered. Brown’s SAT ranges, for instance, shows 25th percentile scores (“the scores that 25% scored at or below”) of: 660CR, 670M, and 670WR. Less than 9% of freshman had CR scores below 600, less than 6% had Math scores below 600, and less than 7% had WR scores lower than 600. I doubt any one student had 599’s across the board; it seems more likely those lower scores were part of a lopsided score (maybe a kid who’s really good at math but not as good in English) or a student with an exceptional talent or story. You won’t know if your story is compelling enough if you don’t try, but I would keep in mind that these colleges are reaches for the vast majority of students. I think Asian is considered an ORM, not a URM, so I don’t believe that part of your application is going to make a difference. Make sure you compile a list of safeties (schools you’re sure to get into, that you can definitely afford, and you’d be happy attending), matches (schools that are academic fits that you will probably get into and can afford if you get enough aid), and a couple of reaches (like the schools you listed).</p>

<p>Good luck.</p>

<p>As some of the above posters have pointed out, Asian is not considered a URM. You (or whoever this person is) seem to have done well even in the face of huge obstacles and that should be commended. However, a more realistic group of colleges should be considered. A 1600 basically guarantees that you won’t get into any of the universities listed. Being in New York look into Syracuse and the SUNYs. Given your statistics you should get into a decent amount and be given a substantial financial aid package.</p>

<p>Hi! I think I’ll let you know that Asian is not URM (trust me I know). Even though your SAT scores are super low for these, if you explain your situation in your essays you have a chance. I’ve seen Cornell accept people with 1700 before so why not you? Brown might be a bit too far, CMU I’m not sure, but I think you could have a shot with NYU as well as long as you don’t apply to stern :slight_smile: chance back?
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Kinda harsh … Ouch
But thanks

Woah, for anyone to say you have absolutely no chance is uncalled for and false. There is always a chance, it might be slim, but there is. I would apply because you aren’t losing anything out of it. You’ll regret not applying one day because you never know! Just be prepared for any result and apply to safety schools! Best of luck!

I don’t know why I clicked on another of these chances threads. Why do I do this? Or more importantly, why do people bother to type all than in for clueless people to comment on?

My friend got into harvard EA with a 3.3 and a 1690, she had a perfect math score (800 math, 440 reading and 450 writing, she’s half Mexican, and first gen to college, she had no ECs in school and the ones she had she quit most 2 years in, which is kind of sketchy IMO.

At elite schools w high avg SAT scores, the admitted applicants w low scores typically have some “hook”. U have no “hook” (URM, athletic prowess, extraordinary dance/music talent, development case, national-level science competition winner, etc). The extenuating circumstances u listed (immigrant, 1st gen, etc) will be shared by many applicants. And on top of it, your SAT scores, while average nationally, would put u in the bottom quartile of the schools on your list.

Have u looked at any SAT-optional schools?

@warriorblade101 how is that even possible? what was her hook other than URM and first gen?

@JasonLIE i doubt that is true.

While not impossible, it will be very difficult to get into any of the schools you listed. I understand this may be hard to hear, but it’s the reality of it. I think you should retake the SAT and bring it up to at least an 1850 which will give you consideration at NYU, maybe a look by Cornell but still will likely garner rejections from all other schools. Good luck, it’s no easy feat. I’m rooting for you!

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