chances for a junior

<p>hi everyone, just wonder my chances for syracuse. im a junior right now</p>

<p>location: virginia
race/gender: white/female</p>

<p>GPA:
freshman- 3.56 (1 honors course)
sophmore- 3.64
junior- 3.78 (1 AP)
senior- decent schedule (1 AP)</p>

<p>SATs:
560 m and 500 v..i know its awful i got a tutor and now i'm taking them on June 3, 2006</p>

<p>OTHER:
4 years of field hockey (possible captain)
1 year of soccer (sportsmanship award)
1 year of track and field
placed 1st in science fair
3 years of national honor society
2 years in DECA
85 hours+ of community service
internship at an elementary school (want to major in education)
played years on a soccer team outside of school (captain)</p>

<p>thanks!</p>

<p>Your're grades and ECs are fine, but I think you need to up your SATs a little. Try breaking 1100 and then you'll have a solid chance at acceptance and some scholarship money. Good luck.</p>

<p>As the last poster said, everything but your SATs are fine. </p>

<p>What makes my opinion of Syracuse rather low is the fact that some of my friends got in with <800 TOTAL score (no lie). So, while I would encourage you to try and do better, certainly do not assume that all is lost.</p>

<p>take more APs senior year because it's worth it. just do your best and don't stress so much on the SAT because the range is so big and if you don't do that well, you can always take it again in october. try to get them at 1200+ (or 1800+ with the writing section). good luck and have fun looking at other colleges too.</p>

<p>wow that low on the sat score? well i guess thats good news for me! every college ive been asking about is saying "take more ap's" but i feel like if i do i wont get such a high grade. i started taking ap history this year but did so bad i had to drop it. so i dont know what to do</p>

<p>Then, take the easier of the APs.</p>

<p>Here's my selection:
AP COMP GOV... A (that for AP GOV, too)
AP CALC.. A
AP Physics C... A/B+ (That's with mech and e&m)
AP Lit... A/B+
AP HMN... A
AP US... A
AP LNG... B+/B</p>

<p>well, it all depends on what program you're going for. and if you have the desire to get credit through the tests. it also depends on your teachers/school. i dropped lang last year because i got so stressed out with all the competition in my class. oh well</p>

<p>Don't be scared by APs - in Macro Econ we were taking 7 pages of notes a night, had a test every week, and read a chapter a day. I figured, hell - I hated doing that work as it was, and if college was gonna be 4 years of that, why bother going. But, I tell ya what - not only are classes MUCH less rigorous, but you have a helluva lot more time to do your work, too. </p>

<p>Personally I think AP courses are over-rated - I didn't take any of mine for credit, so I saved myself a lot of stress :-) Just take what interests you, and screw what the colleges say. AP or no, as long as you do well in <em>whatever</em> classes you take (or even not so much), you are virtually guaranteed to get in. Remember folks, this is Syracuse, not Harvard. And, once you meet the 99% of kids on this campus who are all alike, you will see that they are equally stupid and uninformed, which simply proves that you needn't be smart to get in :-)</p>

<p>Except for the few</p>

<p>heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey.......anarchy......u gotta be some kinda smart to get in....<em>sniffle</em></p>

<p>As long as you up your SAT scores a bit, you should be fine. Best of luck to you! :D</p>

<p>at least they look at the applicants more as PEOPLE instead of NUMBERS. SAT's are retarded anyway... So many lazy kids get amazing scores (that seems to be the case at my school anyway) but they're still bad students!</p>

<p>and so many smart people (as I would hope I am :p ) get really ***<em>ty scores - case in point, in Latin class I would rattle off English derivatives left and right, and have to define half the words for the class - yet come SAT time, people were getting 150 and 200 points above me on the verbal. Comon now. That reeks of unfairness. And I am a VERY GOOD test taker. The SAT is *NOT</em> an accurate measure of anything - not intelligence, not ability, not knowledge, and not your propensity to succeed.</p>

<p>Just look at Dubya. He got a 1200 I think. And yet the man is president. As he remarked to a Yale graduating class a few years back: </p>

<p>"To those of you who received honors, awards, and distinctions, I say, well done. And to the C students, I say, you, too, can be president of the United States."</p>

<p>ugh. Anarchy you depress me. I hate the idea of shuttering myself away in a cesspool of stupid snobs. I better earn good grades and transfer to Harvard or something lol.</p>

<p>Yay I'm hella going to buy some San Francisco/SF/Frisco/The Sco/The Bay Area/the sfa tourist shirts.</p>

<p>anarachy I agree with you that the SAT is bs... that's why I'm applying to mostly colleges that have stopped requiring it (sarah lawrence, bennington, hampshire). I hate standardized testing.</p>

<p>I've been entertaining the idea of transfering to Cornell, because Syracuse really is a joke - it is simply a commercialized piece of crap that offers the "typical college experience" that you see on TV - kids living in close-quarters, with their bratty friends, living in buildings bedecked in bright ***<em>ty colors, eating pizza and guzzling beer and soda. Its a party school, its a waste of money, and its ridiculous that they even call themselves a college, given what they teach you. As I said before - I learned more in a month at Yale than I did ALL YEAR at Syracuse. Sure, it is one of the top universities in the world, and its atmosphere literally reeks of academia, so perhaps it is an unfair comparison (I only wish I could get in there for regular undergrad admissions). But for the price, Syracuse is a complete waste of money. There is no academic freedom, and the university *wastes</em> a tremendous amount of money on athletics (which benefit only a small number of students, even though most of our sports teams suck). The professors, more often than not, are very good. But their curriculum is generally not terribly difficult, their course offerings are limited in many ways, and its administration is often entwined in red-tape and bureaucracy, or just plain ignores the students [shout out to Chancy Nancy]. The number of students who are truly passionate about their area of study, like to discuss it out of class, or want to make a TRUE difference in the world (be it through their studies or through activism) are very small. Yes, your experience at college IS what you make of it, but you sure as hell have to work to find these people - and more often than not, they're hiding in their room studying. It is a campus of two extremes - those who are very studious and never leave their room, and those who hang out all day, drink before noon, skip class, and puke in the hallways.</p>

<p>I am considering the transfer to Cornell, but despite my strong views, am not exactly FLEEING this place quite yet. I have a marvelous job, a fabulous financial aid package, lots of friends, good connections with the administration and in local politics, and see a lot of opportunity. But most of it is off-campus. There are some benefits to being a large university that has some money, but again, you can do far better at another college. I find this whole "GO ORANGE" crap repulsive - that people think Syracuse is so wonderful. Well, no - it isn't. And if most of the people who support us, actually went here (in this day and age), they would see just what I mean.</p>

<p>I don't intend to ever give a dime to SU because, unless they have a serious change in academic focus, I don't feel it would do any good in the education of students. It would be thrown to some stupid sports program, or used to build a swingset for kids in Syracuse. It may look nice and pretty to brag about their community involvement, but they also have an obligation to their students, and in my opinion, that is not being upheld.</p>

<p>Anyway, enough of a rant for tonight.</p>

<p>whoa....good way to turn prospective students off..i hope that's just your experience.</p>

<p>youre depressing.and like ice said thats a good way to turn prospective students off..........on a prospective students forum. i mean everyone is entitiled to their own opinions but damn. why are u even there!!!</p>

<p>exactly..i mean..i still like syr and all but if i was wishy washy i might get tunred off. try and hold off on the depressing comment dude. Please?</p>

<p>Depressing or not, dont you have a right to know the negative aspects, in order to best judge if syracuse appropriate or not? By your own admission, if this is "turning you off" from syracuse, then it is information you deem valuable in your decision-making :-)</p>

<p>Any university will try to sell itself with their "positive" points, and hide their negative ones. I really do consider myself to be impartial. I will not sing SU's praises (facilities), but I give it credit where credit is due (financial aid). I won't say something is "bad" when it isn't (some of the dining halls), but just the same, I won't hesistate to criticize it when it is (many academic courses).</p>

<p>As a prospective-student forum, I feel that you all have a good reason to know the views of students on the campus. I would have loved it if more current students at SU had been posting here regularly, during my admissions process, to answer questions and give their opinions. I had certainly heard about the preppy stereotype and how prevalent it was, but largely blew it off, thinking things couldn't possibly be any worse than they were at my high school. <em>WRONG</em> </p>

<p>Take my words with a grain of salt. Yes, it is -my- experience. First and foremost, I expected college to teach me something, and offer me good opportunities on and off campus. Socialization and parties were at the bottom of the list. For others, their priorities are different. Perhaps for you all, look-alike preps don't bother you. But they bother me, and I have shared my opinion as such. To go back to what was said earlier, about this being a prospective student forum - it would be wonderful if there were more current students posting here, to give you a more varied opinion. I stick around because I like to see what people say and think about SU, and because I like to answer questions and clear up misconceptions. You should be making an <em>informed</em> choice, especially given how much an SU education will cost. You should not bury your head in the sand and think things are perfect, when they really are not. But I reinterate, put my words into context - I am not "mainstream" by any use of the world. I don't share the same generic interests, I don't take a passive, apathetic stance, and I critically examine and think through -everything-. </p>

<p>Hope that clears things up a bit</p>

<p>PS: re-reading your last comment, melo, I seemed to have mis-addressed things (thought you were asking why I am on this forum...)
I am at SU because I screwed around in HS, got a crappy (3.2) GPA, and had limited opportunity to participate in after-school activities because school was 15 miles away and my parents refused to drive me. So I ended up getting rejected from all but 2 colleges, and the other choice (Loyola of Chicago) was the last place I wanted to go. I never expected to end up at SU, but it was the only viable choice. That, is why I am there.</p>