<p>I'm currently a junior with a 3.75 GPA</p>
<p>Junior year I've maintained a 4.0, and this semester after finals I should have a 4.14</p>
<p>ACT - 26</p>
<p>SAT - 1150/1690</p>
<p>AP tests taken - AP BIO, AP US HISTORY (Not sure of scores)</p>
<p>I have around 100+ community service hours</p>
<p>Decent but you need to get those test scores up, especially the SAT.</p>
<p>@pasbal - I’m planning on getting my ACT up and not sending in my SAT</p>
<p>I got a 31 on reading for ACT and a 590 on reading for SAT, so I have more room for improvement on ACT</p>
<p>I can get my composite to 28 for sure</p>
<p>^ That last sentence was possibly one of the dumbest statements I’ve read in awhile. Congrats.</p>
<p>collegeready99, imho, should be regarded as a ■■■■■. just review his posts on this forum and others and you’ll see all the conflicting information he’s given. On this forum, he’s asked many questions and been given detailed, thoughtful answers. Why he chooses to chime in here and in such a way is a mystery. But he’s best ignored at this point.</p>
<p>Interestingly, our local newspaper just printed all the valedictorians and salutatorians for the private schools in the area. One valedictorian and two salutatorians chose FSU…I’m assuming they were A+ students at the least.</p>
<p>I’d say you’re pretty good for FSU. I want to go there too and I have similar stats.</p>
<p>Instate, your in. FSU even superscores between the ACT and SAT, so if you even have one standout score on the SAT, send it, it cannot hurt you and only help you. They really do pay attention to only the highest score in each area-CR/M/W whether it be ACT or SAT. And if you are instate, your SAT scores are likely on your transcripts, FSU gets them anyway and does consider them official.</p>
<p>collegeready99, there are always exceptions…there are also students with stats like above that don’t get in…but anyway, we get your opinion of FSU, so why don’t you go post at a school’s forum that you consider worthy of your talents…people chose a school for all sorts of reasons…if you just chase reputation, you’ll be disappointed…because outside of the Ivy League and a few other top schools, I think the student’s accomplishments will be weighed more than where they went to undergrad</p>
<p>darn, I fed the ■■■■■…but one other comment. The stats you posted here are far from being a lock for an OOS at FSU. If your guidance counselor is laughing about it, you need better advice.</p>
<p>Your GC is in error. According to the lastest Common Data Set some 50% of the latest FSU freshmen reporting GPAs have GPAs of at least 3.75/4.0. Another 28+% have a GPA of 3.5-3.74/4.0. That’s about 78+% of enrolled fall freshmen. All told, for Fall 2010 the average GPA is 3.76/4.0. </p>
<p>FSU is not a lock for anyone with a weaker GPA, even if you have a good ACT/SAT. Alumni complain frequently their child was not admitted to Florida State as a legacy.</p>
<p>For fall of 2010, a frequent poster here had a son applying. This was son #2. Son #1 was already attending FSU. This is an OOS family. Son #2 applied early, with these stats: SAT 1360/1600 and 1980/2400 3.55 gpa. Come December the student was deferred/waitlisted. He eventually got in FOR SUMMER during the second application round. </p>
<p>You can laugh all you want to, but OOS stats need to be very competitive.</p>
<p>Likely non-Fall admits, when the competition lessens.</p>
<p>You do know that some people don’t want to go to other schools, or perhaps other schools don’t have the major that they are interested in, right?</p>
<p>It’s also my understanding that university based scholarships are extremely more difficult to come by at schools like UF than they are at FSU, just due to their accepted students having higher stats than schools like FSU/USF/UCF. </p>
<p>Telling someone they should apply elsewhere just because they are a “shoe in” in your OPINION is about stupid. Not everyone wants to go elsewhere. Maybe, just maybe, the person wants to go to FSU and wants to know what their odds are.</p>
<p>Ah, a 16-year old UF fan. Well, that explains the unusual foot reference. Pardon me, but the phrase would be “shoo-in” as opposed to something for feet.</p>
<p>Before touting the Harvard of Hogtown as a superior school I suggest you define down the subject area the OP wants. FSU certainly has many that are superior to what UF offers. A little investigation will show what I mean.</p>
<p>Then again, maybe the OP can do this kind of work by themselves.</p>
<p>Students and applicants should look at the differences between FSU and UF as subject based. The schools are not mirror images of each other and offer different majors. Each has strengths and weaknesses, which of course they emphasize and minimize to attract the best students. Both compete for the very best students. Ratings such as US News tend to incorrectly blur significant and important differences in closely matched schools such as Florida State and Florida. FSU has excellent academics in its strengths, nationally competitive at that.</p>
<p>Fundamentally, UF is the state agricultural college while FSU is the state liberal arts college. Historically a classical liberals arts education was the education of the monied class, while animal husbandry and other applied sciences were considered more common or worker class, in the fairly classless American society (relative to European structures). FSU remains somewhat more liberal arts specialized, with strengths in sciences, arts, languages and so on while UF is a “land grant” school, which was and remains intended to teach students of common means farming and related subjects. These organizational roots have influenced the development and perception of such institutions over time. For example, UF gets a US News ratings bump because they <em>on paper</em> house IFAS, the state agricultural service. This error artificially pumps up the UF per-student funding rate, making it look like UF has more funding than it actually does, compared to Florida State. Secondly, the US News ratings are “gamed” by schools to make themselves look better than they actually are, in effort to attract better students. UF’s President Machen got caught doing this a couple years ago. Economic necessity over time has pressured these two state flagship universities to act more alike, in terms of subjects, but the historic strengths of each remain. </p>
<p>While a few years ago virtually everyone ignored things like US News ratings, which were and are intended by the authors to create and perpetuate artificial controversy in order to sell magazines and Internet ad clicks, proliferation of Internet use by many younger people has given such easy-to-grasp “handles” undeserved credibility, because universities are hard to quantify and comprehend, especially by anxious applicants and their helicopter parents (I’ll qualify myself as an ex-helicopter parent) trying to make a good educational decision. The weirdness of the decision making by consumers is amplified by even sports success, which lends attractiveness to one or another.</p>
<p>I think the best way a student should select their school is by looking at what they want to study, allowing for changes of mind and growth, at the school which best works for them at the least expense. Therefore, under this kind of analysis, the OP remains perfectly situated for Florida State assuming FSU has what he/she wants. Its also a good idea to look at UF for the same reason. It is NOT a good idea to assume such nuanced state schools are clones and to gloss over significant differences based on averages, which are easily confused. Indeed, universities make such numbers intentionally more confusing as a marketing strategy to make comparisons difficult.</p>
<p>and…the original poster wasn’t asking if he SHOULD go to FSU…he was asking his chances. unless you’re an admitting officer at FSU, no one should tell him he’s a shoo-in and not to bother to try to improve his scores. Given the budget cuts to universities and the depressed economy, there may be cuts in the number of students accepted and the applicant pool may have higher stats when he applies. Not to mention, encouraging him to improve his test scores could help him get scholarship money or entrance to the honors program.</p>
<p>haha thanks guys, and I’m in state.</p>
<p>I should have also mentioned that my 2 grandmas, uncle, aunt, and mom all attended FSU. I’m not how much this affects the decision.</p>
<p>I will definitely study to get my ACT’s up this summer, but do you think I’ll get rejected from FSU with these stats?</p>
<p>From my view, I would be surprised if you were rejected. You have a good chance.</p>
<p>James, you’d get a point in admissions for being a legacy. Since FSU values GPA (think you wrote you had a 3.75/4.0?) more than ACT/SAT scores you have a solid shot at admission.</p>
<p>I suggest you retake the ACT or SAT - several times if necessary - to try and qualify for an academic scholarship or other advantages.</p>
<p>How exactly do you get ‘points’ for legacy and whatnot? I don’t ever see any questions related to something like that in an FSU app. I remember it on UF’s though.</p>