The handwringing over the drop in Dartmouth applications should be seen in the context of rising applications at other Ivies. Dartmouth also took I believe a record percentage (55% IIRC) of the class of 2021 ED. This is done to artificially inflate its yield (near 100% yield on ED) and artificially lower its admit rate (since it can reject more people in RD).
http://www.dartblog.com/data/2017/03/013148.php
WUSTL numbers, but nothing about an ED acceptance rate. http://www.studlife.com/news/administration/2017/03/09/wu-receives-record-number-of-applicants/
According to this article, the actual figure was 47%. http://www.thedartmouth.com/article/2017/01/early-decision-students-to-comprise-47-percent-of-class
I still believe it is an excessive amount of handwringing (by the article’s author) for a slight decrease in the number of applications. The admissions committee or school should only be worried if they are not drawing a large pool of qualified applicants, and by this measure Dartmouth is still doing that 10 or 20 times over. Everything else is just chest-pounding material.
Good catch. I got that figure from the graph in this article. Obviously I was mixing up Penn and Dartmouth, but the rise in ED at Dartmouth is indeed alarming. On top of that, the author suggests the possibility that many athletic recruits are pushed into RD to make the ED round not look so extreme. This would mean the effective ED round is even bigger than it appears. That is a possibility but not sure how you’d prove it with public data. More generally, there just are so many ways a school can tweak its admissions strategy to make stats appear as desired.
http://www.dartblog.com/data/2016/12/013043.php
I think stakeholders worry about these small shifts not because a low single digit decline is a big deal in and of itself, but because they see them as indicative of a general decline in Dartmouth’s prestige among the Ivy League.
@keiekei: If you take the view that prestige is like beauty and in the eye of the beholder, this very much seems a bunch of macaronis competing to see how high they can pile their hair up:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macaroni_(fashion)
Evidently, Dartmouth is having trouble piling the wig higher because of structural issues.
In any case, I’ve always said that judging colleges by the whims of high schoolers (and indirectly at that, given how much admit rates can be manipulated) is quite silly.
Will be interested to hear about Georgia Tech - released their RD decisions today.
GTech info (RD decisions released today) – 31,464 apps, 23% admit rate. 1458 SAT, 33 ACT. ‘A’ GPA, 11 AP/IB/DE courses. from https://www.facebook.com/GTadmission/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE&fref=nf
Caltech released today. Any numbers?
@sbjdorlo The admitted Caltech students were not given any stats and I don’t see a press release. (In fact, there still isn’t a 2015-16 Common Data Set.)
Adding GA Tech RD. I’m not smart enough to figure out separate RD rates for in-state and OOS based on the available data, but if someone has stronger algebraic skills and the time, have at it:
MIT EA 657 out of 8394 (7.8%) (def=69.7%, rej=22.4%)
Georgetown EA 931 out of 7822 (11.9%)(def=88.1%)
Boston University ED2 ~274 out of 2039 (~13.4%)
Harvard SCEA 938 out of 6473 (14.5%)
Princeton SCEA 770 out of 5003 (15.4%)
Yale SCEA 871 out of 5086 (17.1%) (def=52.7%, rej=28.6%)
Georgia Tech RD (IS/OOS) 2917 out of 15,769 (18.5%)
Rice ED 329 out of 1604 (20.5%)
Brown ED 695 out of 3170 (21.9%)(def=60%, rej=18%)
Georgia Tech EA (OOS) ~2300 out of 11,515 (~21%)
Penn ED 1354 out of 6147 (22.0%)
UVA EA (OOS) 3339 out of 14,968 (22.3%)
Vanderbilt ED1/ED2 __ out of __ (23.6%)
Carnegie Mellon ED 330 out of 1375 (24.0%)
Notre Dame REA 1470 out of 6020 (24.4%) (893 def=14.8%)
Duke ED 861 out of 3516 (24.5%)(def,671=19.1%)
Cornell ED ~1379 out of 5384 (25.6%)(def=20.9%, rej=53.5%)
Northwestern ED ~963 out of 3736 (~25.7%)
Dartmouth ED 555 out of 1999 (27.8%)
Georgia Tech EA (IS/OOS) 4380 out of 15,715 (27.9%)
Boston University ED1/ED2 ~1190 out of 4181 (~28.5%)
UVA EA (IS/OOS) 5914 out of 20,446 (28.9%)(def,5458=26.7%; rej,9074=44.4%)
Tulane EA 6480 out of 22,256 (29.1%)
Tufts ED1/ED2 ~675 out of 2310 (~29.2%)
Johns Hopkins ED 591 out of 1934 (30.6%)
Emory ED 474 out of 1493 (31.7%)
Boston College EA ~2900 out of 9000 (~33%)(def,3500=38.9%, rej,2500=27.8%)
Williams ED 257 out of 728 (35.3%)
Boston University ED1 916 out of 2142 (42.8%)
UVA EA (IS) 2575 out of 5278 (48.8%)
Fordham EA 9812 out of 19,859 (49.4%)
Georgia Tech EA (IS) ~2080 out of 4200 (~49%)
Middlebury ED1 343 out of 673 (51.0%) (def,60=8.9%, rej,270=40.1%)
William & Mary ED 528 out of 1023 (51.6%)
University of Georgia EA 8059 out of 15,614 (51.6%)
Fordham ED 156 out of 293 (53.2%)
Trinity College ED 315 out of 443 (71.1%)
University of Florida RD:
http://www.alligator.org/news/campus/article_e584a33e-f067-11e6-a022-276a54ba0335.html
More about applications stats than admissions, but interesting and might have further effects:
Adding Florida RD:
MIT EA 657 out of 8394 (7.8%) (def=69.7%, rej=22.4%)
Georgetown EA 931 out of 7822 (11.9%)(def=88.1%)
Boston University ED2 ~274 out of 2039 (~13.4%)
Harvard SCEA 938 out of 6473 (14.5%)
Princeton SCEA 770 out of 5003 (15.4%)
Yale SCEA 871 out of 5086 (17.1%) (def=52.7%, rej=28.6%)
Georgia Tech RD (IS/OOS) 2917 out of 15,769 (18.5%)
Rice ED 329 out of 1604 (20.5%)
Brown ED 695 out of 3170 (21.9%)(def=60%, rej=18%)
Georgia Tech EA (OOS) ~2300 out of 11,515 (~21%)
Penn ED 1354 out of 6147 (22.0%)
UVA EA (OOS) 3339 out of 14,968 (22.3%)
Vanderbilt ED1/ED2 __ out of __ (23.6%)
Carnegie Mellon ED 330 out of 1375 (24.0%)
Notre Dame REA 1470 out of 6020 (24.4%) (893 def=14.8%)
Duke ED 861 out of 3516 (24.5%)(def,671=19.1%)
Cornell ED ~1379 out of 5384 (25.6%)(def=20.9%, rej=53.5%)
Northwestern ED ~963 out of 3736 (~25.7%)
Dartmouth ED 555 out of 1999 (27.8%)
Georgia Tech EA (IS/OOS) 4380 out of 15,715 (27.9%)
Boston University ED1/ED2 ~1190 out of 4181 (~28.5%)
UVA EA (IS/OOS) 5914 out of 20,446 (28.9%)(def,5458=26.7%; rej,9074=44.4%)
Tulane EA 6480 out of 22,256 (29.1%)
Tufts ED1/ED2 ~675 out of 2310 (~29.2%)
Johns Hopkins ED 591 out of 1934 (30.6%)
Emory ED 474 out of 1493 (31.7%)
Boston College EA ~2900 out of 9000 (~33%)(def,3500=38.9%, rej,2500=27.8%)
Williams ED 257 out of 728 (35.3%)
University of Florida RD 13,214 out of ~34,000 (~38.9%)
Boston University ED1 916 out of 2142 (42.8%)
UVA EA (IS) 2575 out of 5278 (48.8%)
Fordham EA 9812 out of 19,859 (49.4%)
Georgia Tech EA (IS) ~2080 out of 4200 (~49%)
Middlebury ED1 343 out of 673 (51.0%) (def,60=8.9%, rej,270=40.1%)
William & Mary ED 528 out of 1023 (51.6%)
University of Georgia EA 8059 out of 15,614 (51.6%)
Fordham ED 156 out of 293 (53.2%)
Trinity College ED 315 out of 443 (71.1%)
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Massachusetts Institute of Technology:
http://mitadmissions.org/blogs/entry/mit-regular-action-decisions-now-available-online4
Any news on Binghamton?
Adding MIT:
MIT RD 781 out of 11,853 (6.6%)
MIT EA 657 out of 8394 (7.8%) (def=69.7%, rej=22.4%)
Georgetown EA 931 out of 7822 (11.9%)(def=88.1%)
Boston University ED2 ~274 out of 2039 (~13.4%)
Harvard SCEA 938 out of 6473 (14.5%)
Princeton SCEA 770 out of 5003 (15.4%)
Yale SCEA 871 out of 5086 (17.1%) (def=52.7%, rej=28.6%)
Georgia Tech RD (IS/OOS) 2917 out of 15,769 (18.5%)
Rice ED 329 out of 1604 (20.5%)
Brown ED 695 out of 3170 (21.9%)(def=60%, rej=18%)
Georgia Tech EA (OOS) ~2300 out of 11,515 (~21%)
Penn ED 1354 out of 6147 (22.0%)
UVA EA (OOS) 3339 out of 14,968 (22.3%)
Vanderbilt ED1/ED2 __ out of __ (23.6%)
Carnegie Mellon ED 330 out of 1375 (24.0%)
Notre Dame REA 1470 out of 6020 (24.4%) (893 def=14.8%)
Duke ED 861 out of 3516 (24.5%)(def,671=19.1%)
Cornell ED ~1379 out of 5384 (25.6%)(def=20.9%, rej=53.5%)
Northwestern ED ~963 out of 3736 (~25.7%)
Dartmouth ED 555 out of 1999 (27.8%)
Georgia Tech EA (IS/OOS) 4380 out of 15,715 (27.9%)
Boston University ED1/ED2 ~1190 out of 4181 (~28.5%)
UVA EA (IS/OOS) 5914 out of 20,446 (28.9%)(def,5458=26.7%; rej,9074=44.4%)
Tulane EA 6480 out of 22,256 (29.1%)
Tufts ED1/ED2 ~675 out of 2310 (~29.2%)
Johns Hopkins ED 591 out of 1934 (30.6%)
Emory ED 474 out of 1493 (31.7%)
Boston College EA ~2900 out of 9000 (~33%)(def,3500=38.9%, rej,2500=27.8%)
Williams ED 257 out of 728 (35.3%)
University of Florida RD 13,214 out of ~34,000 (~38.9%)
Boston University ED1 916 out of 2142 (42.8%)
UVA EA (IS) 2575 out of 5278 (48.8%)
Fordham EA 9812 out of 19,859 (49.4%)
Georgia Tech EA (IS) ~2080 out of 4200 (~49%)
Middlebury ED1 343 out of 673 (51.0%) (def,60=8.9%, rej,270=40.1%)
William & Mary ED 528 out of 1023 (51.6%)
University of Georgia EA 8059 out of 15,614 (51.6%)
Fordham ED 156 out of 293 (53.2%)
Trinity College ED 315 out of 443 (71.1%)
I think that’s an all time low for MIT RD.
781 isn’t just the number admitted from the 11,853 RD applicants – it includes some admitted from the ~5,851 who were deferred. What I think we can say:
MIT RD+def EA 781 out of 17,704 (4.4%)
MIT RD+EA 1,438 out of 20,247 (7.1%)
MIT EA 657 out of 8394 (7.8%) (def=69.7%, rej=22.4%)