Let’s look at the facts related to the Math II subject test. In the latest College Board data I could find (2013) there were 251,301 subject test takers taking 635,049 tests. There were 72,828 takers of the Math I test and 140,690 takers of the incredibly difficult and elite Math II test (the most taken subject test). 19% of 140,690 = 26,731 scoring an 800. That is over 10.6% of those taking an SAT subject test and roughly 50x the number of students accepted to Caltech. While clearly a commendable accomplishment, perhaps an 800 on the Math II is not the pinnacle achievement it is perceived to be.
If you really want to be in select company, I would suggest that getting an 800 on the SAT II Latin test will put you there. You’ll be one of about 150 people in the world each year, the last time I checked.
@am61517 It is not the pinnacle achievement at all. None of the subjects tests is. Maybe latin?
Subject tests cover HS material. AP Tests are a different story… With only 6% (more or less) getting 5’s in AP Chem, AP Bio or AP Physics C, for example. Those are college level tests. They really prove çollege readiness. That is why only very few of the top schools have Subjects Tests as a requirement on the applications, and having 5 on an AP test gives you credit in college.
“Where does it say estimated? When I follow the link it says School Data from 2014-2015 for schools with at least 100 undergraduate students? I was just curious.”
@MuggleMom Top of the page when spun open it up: “Est. Median SAT for 2017”
@Carino, you are correct, and that was my point.
Yes, and when I initially posted it, I stated, “Here’s a list of est. median SAT for 2017 (top ten) provided by…”
“I wasn’t expecting to see Franklin Olin College of Engineering tied with University of Chicago in the number two spot.”
I’m not surprising by that. Olin is tiny but about the same caliber as Mudd.
Some of us have known that little secret awhile
Yes, I had heard of Olin but wasn’t aware of what an interesting school it is. But I am now. It really is a little gem of the higher education world. After I posted that link showing Olin tied in estimated 2017 SATs with Chicago, I went to Olin’s website and enjoyed learning about the school and its project-oriented program. I have a feeling it won’t be a little secret for too much longer when considering how the school only recently burst onto the scene, admitting its first class of 75 students in 2002 while in just a matter of years gaining recognition in national rankings. And on top of all that, Olin is very generous with scholarships. Very impressive.
Caltech had not previously posted their 2015-16 and 2016-17 Common Data Sets. I emailed someone in the financial aid office, and she just let me know that they are now posted.
Still no news release with the admissions percentage for 2017. The number they admitted this year (525) is lower than the number in the past couple years (553 and 573). But, perhaps the 2017 does not yet include waitlist admits, where the earlier years on the CDS do. The number of applications this year was ~7000, but I don’t have anything more specific than that.
Schools are starting to report yield rates: Record highs at Harvard (84%) and Dartmouth (61%).
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2017/5/10/class-2021-yield/
http://www.thedartmouth.com/article/2017/05/class-of-2021-has-record-high-number-of-students
Does Anyone know the highest yield a college ever had?
Middlebury reported an increased yield this year:
http://www.middlebury.edu/newsroom/archive/2017-news/node/547587
MIT’s yield this year was 76%. Fourteen students admitted off waitlist and then waitlist closed.
http://mitadmissions.org/blogs/entry/class-of-2021-wait-list
@spayurpets Just wondering, is Dartmouth’s “yield” of 61% a bit disingenuous given that 43% were admitted ED and those kids would have a yield presumably of 90%? I tried to backsolve the yield for the RD kids and I got 724 RD committed students (1279 - 555) divided by total RD admits of 1,537 or 47% RD yield. I’m not sure how that then converts to a 61% yield. Any ideas? Thanks.
@londondad – I think that all (almost all?) ED schools express yield as an ED/RD weighted average. I agree with you that ED yield should be very close to 100%. (I would hope even higher than the 90% you used.) I often calculate RD yield as I am amazed at how low it is for some schools that take a significant percentage of their class in the ED round. Some of these same schools will then admit a sizable # via WL.
What I am not certain about is where, if anywhere, the admits off WL end up in the yield calculation. I think they are ‘below the line’ and are not measured, but I may be wrong about that.
LACs - the military academies and Berea top the list, for Us Stanfor,d Harvard and BYU.
There are some quirky colleges not on the radar of USNWR. For example, Deep Springs College doesn’t do a Common Data Set, but their web page says:
If they came anywhere close to needing to go through the waitlist, they would put more than 10 people on it.
@londondad, Last year I did the calculations of all the yields for ED schools after you subtract out the ED round acceptances, and it gives you an RD yield rate. I expect we can do it again once the yield numbers all come in.
Last year (Class of 2020):
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1.University of Pennsylvania 66.8% (2445) (RD 1110=47.7%)
2.Brown University 56.9% (1660) (RD 991=44.0%)
3.Pomona College 55.2% (410) (RD 237=41.1%)
4.Dartmouth College 54.0%(1175) (RD 681=40.5%)
5.Cornell University 52.2% (3275)(RD 1937=39.2%)
6.Bowdoin College 51.5% (500) (RD 216=31.4%)
7.Duke University 51.4% (1705) (RD 892=35.1%)
8.Northwestern University 51.3% (1925)(RD 864=32.1%)
9.Vanderbilt University 48.1% (1600)(RD 800=31.7%)
10.Middlebury College 47.6% (685)(RD 287=27.5%)
11.Tufts University 46.8% (1325)(RD 662=30.5%)
12.Williams College 45.6% (550)(RD 304=31.7%)
13.Johns Hopkins University 41.6% (1300)(RD 716=28.2%)
14.Amherst College 41.1% (472)(RD 292=30.1%)
15.Harvey Mudd College 40.2% (200) (RD 123=29.2%)
16.Scripps College 32.8% (245)(RD 132=20.9%)
17.George Washington University 22.6% (2474)(RD 1633=16.1%)