College Football Discussion 09

<p>Lol, I can’t believe the Gators embarrassed the Bearcats. It shows that Cincy (Big East) cant play with the big boys. And they’re supposed to be #4 in the nation.</p>

<p>I wasn’t surprised by the score at all. And I find it funny how people wanted them to play in the National Championship game.</p>

<p>btw, the Pac-10 sucks lol. The conference’s best team losses to a Big 10 team, ouch!</p>

<p>Yah, they did lose to a Big Ten Team. As did LSU, and Miami. Minnesota crapped away their chance to win their game, and Auburn barely snuck away with their win against NU.</p>

<p>I think hunting season on the Big Ten is over about now.</p>

<p>and it starts for the Pac-10</p>

<p>Hey Gamecocks! Hey Gamecocks! Hey Gamecocks! We just beat the hell outta you! Rammer jammer yellow hammer, give 'em hell in Alabama!</p>

<p>^Huh??? Alabama didn’t just beat SC lol</p>

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<p>He goes to Connecticut, but the bowl game was in Birmingham, Alabama.</p>

<p>Thank you Florida for showing that Cincinnati was overrated.</p>

<p>So is TCU and Boise State.</p>

<p>Actually I don’t go to UConn. I am born and raised in CT, so I root for UConn for College Football (Basketball, meh, used to like it more when I was younger).</p>

<p>I’m a Jr in HS…and I don’t plan on going to UConn.</p>

<p>I’m not sure TCU is overrated. I agree they play in a weak conference, but they have had one close game that was against Clemson. The game against Air Force wasn’t really close because AFA scored the final touchdown in the last minute to make the score closer. In the seven games after the Air Force game, they have played dominant defense by giving up 10.4 ppg, and their offense has been outstanding with 47.0 ppg. That streak includes two ranked teams that were blown out. They deserve to be ranked that highly.</p>

<p>SLightManifesto: I was just assuming. I guess I was wrong.</p>

<p>TCU is overrated.</p>

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<li><p>Ranked 46th for 2009 recruiting; Ranked 96th for 2008 recruiting; Ranked 80th for 2007 recruiting (It’s impossible to have such a “good team” with such poor recruiting)</p></li>
<li><p>Strength of schedule for TCU was 75th! Proves that they can put up good numbers vs easy teams… wow. </p></li>
<li><p>Good team, but not a #3. Florida’s so much better, so is OSU & PSU.</p></li>
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<p>There’s a lot of good articles out there on their training program.</p>

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<p>Clemson. Utah. BYU.</p>

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<p>I agree, but easily a top 10 team. Not so sure about the Big 10 teams being as good.</p>

<p>Underrated team of the year? Oklahoma. Nearly all of their losses were close and/or to good teams.</p>

<p>Barely beat Clemson and they aren’t great. BYU and Utah lol… SOS is a fact, they had the 75th hardest schedule.</p>

<p>Sure they need to be a top 10 team but #3 is ridiculous. </p>

<p>I agree OU is underrated. They lost like 4 of their best offensive players, all were projected 1st round picks!</p>

<p>I conceded that their conference was weak which of course means that their SOS would be weak as well. Against the ranked teams they played, TCU crushed them. With the exception of Maryland, Clemson’s loses were to pretty good teams. </p>

<p>OSU lost to lowly Purdue and an USC that ended up being really overrated. PSU lost the only two big games in their conference schedule. Florida may have been a better team throughout most of the season, but they were outclassed in the championship game and don’t deserve to be ranked ahead of an undefeated TCU. </p>

<p>I thought Cincinnati was overrated and Boise State was not as good as TCU. There is no way I would rank a two lose team ahead of an undefeated team regardless of who they are. Overall, I don’t think this year has had any teams that have really dominated every team they’ve played. In other years, this TCU team might not be ranked this high. This year, who is better? The only teams I can think of are the two that are ranked ahead of TCU, Bama and Texas.</p>

<p>Yeah the only reason why I see TCU being so high is because this year was kinda weak. I think Florida’s 100x better than TCU and I’d pick OSU & PSU over TCU if they played (those teams don’t necessarily deserve to be ranked higher, I just think they’d win in a head-to-head match up).</p>

<p>I’d honestly pick just about every “big school” to beat TCU in a head-to-head matchup. TCU just doesn’t have the talent.</p>

<p>Although talent is very important, good coaching is equally important. Take LSU for example. If LSU is an extremely talented every year, but the coaching is not there at all. The team is undisciplined, makes poor decisions, and cannot manage a game effectively (Ole Miss and Capital One Bowl). TCU and Boise State may not have the talent of LSU, but they are coached by the reigning Coach of the Year Gary Patterson and an excellent coach in Chris Peterson. Would you pick LSU over TCU or Boise State?</p>

<p>Yeah but it’s not like every big school has poor coaching, most other “big schools” have great talent and great coaching. The talented players go to big schools mainly because of the great coaching staffs.</p>

<p>You shouldn’t say LSU has poor coaching, Les is awesome. It’s just a hectic and young team that makes mistakes, Les shouldn’t be blamed. A couple years ago he was one of the premiere coaches in America and after a few mistakes, people are questioning him?</p>

<p>And the coach of the year doesn’t mean all that much, look at Mark Mangino. He won it in '07 and he doesn’t even coach anymore. He wasn’t even a great coach.</p>

<p>Mmmm, idk who I’d pick in those games, I think it’d be pretty close actually and could go either way. But I just can’t see small schools beating big ones on a consistent basis. Sure OU vs Boise happens every once in a while, but it can’t happen consistently IMO.</p>

<p>I’m questioning Les Miles not only for the lack of clock management but also because of his overall offensive scheme. Jordan Jefferson should have been playing in a spread-style offense the entire year instead of a pro-style. He is a dual-threat QB who did not get enough chances to make plays with his feet because he spent time dropping back.The QB was young and inexperienced, and Miles should have allowed him the opportunity to get a good view of the field pre-snap and more time in the pocket to make his decisions. After LSU’s RB corps was decimated with injuries, Jefferson played a bigger role than before. The LSU coaching staff did not alter their scheme appropriately to suit their new demands. Also, LSU’s offensive line was not consistent enough to protect Jefferson, so he often took unnecessary sacks.</p>

<p>LSU consistently recruits the best athletes instead of the best players for their system. As a result, the team often has an offense that stalls out.</p>

<p>Yeah I agree with you, he could of changed the offensive culture. Les likes pocket passers and doesn’t use the spread or really like the idea of dual QBs (Ex: Jarrett Lee, Matt Flynn, JaMarcus Russell, etc) I guess he was just uncomfortable with going to a new scheme since he traditionally likes to run a pro-style. But he’s still an elite coach, I think. </p>

<p>And yeah Scott’s injury hurt a lot. He was huge, literally. </p>

<p>And they have great WR’s so the spread would’ve helped too. The other day I heard an interview with a WR who committed to LSU but decommitted because he wasn’t happy with the coaches scheme to get WR’s involved. The recruit committed to Texas.</p>

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<p>People were questioning him way back in 2007, it just didn’t stick because he won the BCS title. LSU lost twice that year and almost lost a third time when Miles went for a TD pass instead of a game winning FG in the last second. If that pass went incomplete he would be a lot more on the hot seat.</p>

<p>I’m not sure which side to take on this one. It’s not simple at all for a team to switch offensive schemes. For example, USC hired their new QB coach and play caller cold from the NFL and it took him all of spring practice to learn USC’s pro-style playbook (some USC fans would claim he’s still learning it :slight_smile: ), let alone changing schemes.</p>

<p>Also, the kind of spread-option that Chip Kelly or Urban Meyer or Rich Rod run is the product of an awful lot of refinement over a lot of years. It’s not clear how well Les Miles could run a full offensive scheme like that without experience. That said, it’s not that hard to put in some option-read runs. You have to adjust to your player’s strengths.</p>

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<p>Funny you mention, since I kind of always thought of Nick Saban as someone who kept his team especially well disciplined, and most coaches would look pretty weak in comparison (maybe it’ll help him end up 14-0, though?)</p>

<p>On the other hand, say, Pete Carroll is about as loose and zen-beach-Californian as coaches come. Maybe this has its problems (like USC consistently coming in dead last in the pac-10 in penalties) but it also keeps the team loose and revved up to play and won him 2 NC’s and 6 BCS bowls.</p>