<p>^ I wholeheartedly agree......amazing, isn't it</p>
<p>donkey boy, I dunno if you're still reading this thread, but I just wanted to say that if a boy came out in high school here, his amount of girl friends would triple :)</p>
<p>what's with all the bashing? seriously, some people need to lay off the haterade. </p>
<p>you don't go "hm, I think I'll have a crush on that girl," it's more like "wow, she's pretty hot!" or, when their talents and personality really appeal to you, they suddenly look a lot cuter. (this is why really pretty girls hook up with goofy looking guys.)</p>
<p>you don't consciously decide who you're attracted to, you just are.</p>
<p>How bout you keep it under wraps, go to college, lay a few girls, and come back to me, telling me you are gay.</p>
<p>sagar, that post made no sense.</p>
<p>lol morada. I am still reading ^_^. And I think i may come out to my friends in a couple of days.</p>
<p>Being gay is not a choice... some of you guys (more in the beginning of the thread) should close your mouths and open your minds. I got this in a myspace bulletin, read it its kinda long:</p>
<p>Body: gay rights</p>
<p>The following is a very strong and moving letter written by the mother of a gay boy in Vermont...</p>
<p>"Many letters have been sent to the Valley News concerning the homosexual menace in Vermont. I am the mother of a gay son and I've taken enough from you good people. I'm tired of your foolish rhetoric about the "homosexual agenda" and your allegations that accepting homosexuality is the same thing as advocating sex with children. You are cruel and ignorant. You have been robbing me of the joys of motherhood ever since my children were tiny.</p>
<p>My firstborn son started suffering at the hands of the moral little thugs from your moral, upright families from the time he was in the first grade. He was physically and verbally abused from first grade straight through high school because he was perceived to be gay.</p>
<p>He never professed to be gay or had any association with anything gay, but he had the misfortune not to walk or have gestures like the other boys. He was called "fag" incessantly, starting when he was 6.</p>
<p>In high school, while your children were doing what kids that age should be doing, mine labored over a suicide note, drafting and redrafting it to be sure his family knew how much he loved them. My sobbing 17-year-old tore the heart out of me as he choked out that he just couldn't bear to continue living any longer, that he didn't want to be gay and that he couldn't face a life without dignity.</p>
<p>You have the audacity to talk about protecting families and children from the homosexual menace, while you yourselves tear apart families and drive children to despair. I don't know why my son is gay, but I do know that God didn't put him, and millions like him, on this Earth to give you someone to abuse. God gave you brains so that you could think, and it's about time you started doing that.</p>
<p>At the core of all your misguided beliefs is the belief that this could never happen to you, that there is some kind of subculture out there that people have chosen to join. The fact is that if it can happen to my family, it can happen to yours, and you won't get to choose. Whether it is genetic or whether something occurs during a critical time of fetal development, I don't know. I can only tell you with an absolute certainty that it is inborn.</p>
<p>If you want to tout your own morality, you'd best come up with something more substantive than your heterosexuality. You did nothing to earn it; it was given to you. If you disagree, I would be interested in hearing your story, because my own heterosexuality was a blessing I received with no effort whatsoever on my part. It is so woven into the very soul of me that nothing could ever change it. For those of you who reduce sexual orientation to a simple choice, a character issue, a bad habit or something that can be changed by a 10-step program, I'm puzzled. Are you saying that your own sexual orientation is nothing more than something you have chosen, that you could change it at will? If that's not the case, then why would you suggest that someone else can?</p>
<p>A popular theme in your letters is that Vermont has been infiltrated by outsiders. Both sides of my family have lived in Vermont for generations. I am heart and soul a Vermonter, so I'll thank you to stop saying that you are speaking for "true Vermonters."</p>
<p>You invoke the memory of the brave people who have fought on the battlefield for this great country, saying that they didn't give their lives so that the "homosexual agenda" could tear down the principles they died defending. My 83-year-old father fought in some of the most horrific battles of World War II, was wounded and awarded the Purple Heart.</p>
<p>He shakes his head in sadness at the life his grandson has had to live. He says he fought alongside homosexuals in those battles, that they did their part and bothered no one. One of his best friends in the service was gay, and he never knew it until the end, and when he did find out, it mattered not at all. That wasn't the measure of the man.</p>
<p>You religious folk just can't bear the thought that as my son emerges from the hell that was his childhood he might like to find a lifelong companion and have a measure of happiness. It offends your sensibilities
that he should request the right to visit that companion in the hospital, to make medical decisions for him or to benefit from tax laws governing inheritance.</p>
<p>How dare he? you say. These outrageous requests would threaten the very existence of your family, would undermine the sanctity of marriage. You use religion to abdicate your responsibility to be thinking human beings. There are vast numbers of religious people who find your attitudes repugnant. God is not for the privileged majority, and God knows my son has committed no sin.</p>
<p>The deep-thinking author of a letter to the April 12 Valley News who lectures about homosexual sin and tells us about "those of us who have been blessed with the benefits of a religious upbringing" asks: "What ever happened to the idea of striving . . . to be better human beings than we are?"</p>
<p>Indeed, sir, what ever happened to that? "</p>
<p>If you believe that homosexuals deserve the same rights as everyone else, repost this, and pray and thank god that there are people like this mother, cause without them, where would we be?
_____________________________-</p>
<p><em>applauds</em></p>
<p>again I hate "enlightened" people.....</p>
<p>that child went through horrible things at school. Did God make him gay? no.
It was so bad that he thought about ending his own life, people called him fag, etc? my question is Why did not a single Biblical Christian reach outto him inhis time of need?</p>
<p>That letter said everything I could not manage to, with eloquence and honesty.</p>
<p>^^ the two polar extremes.</p>
<p>personally, that was an opinion-changing post for me. thank you.</p>
<p>ive so far been a supporter of civil unions, but that post seriously is pushing me towards supporting gay marriage as well.</p>
<p>What comes after gay marriage? What to stop marrying more than one women? or a tree? or ANYTHING</p>
<p>one thing WILL LEAD to another.</p>
<p>Don't misunderstand me, I feel for those traped inside the gay lifestyle.Do I support it? no. Why b/c homosexuality is determintal to thegobal society.</p>
<p>you cannot LOVE more than one person. and please tell me when you find a human-animal couple that shares a mutual marriage-like love for one another.</p>
<p>did I mention animals? no.</p>
<p>so then trees have a greater capacity to love than animals? i see.</p>
<p>look at the holes, very big aren't they?</p>
<p>I don't see any holes. If aliens come visit this planet, and a human and an alien fall in love, so be it. That won't happen with a non-sentient species.</p>
<p>Wabash, </p>
<p>Why do you need to "feel for those trapped inside the gay lifestyle"? You're still insisting that the gay lifestyle is somehow a dirty sin rather than a natural instict. Being gay is as normal and natural to a gay person as being straight to you is. </p>
<p>As for "one thing will lead to another", then perhaps heterosexual marriage should not be allowed as well, since straight marriage is starting to lead to gay marriage, no? </p>
<p>talk about big holes.....</p>
<p>wabash, are you telling us that YOU can just wake up one morning and decide that you are attracted to other guys-- physically, emotionally, and intellectually?</p>
<p>gentlemen, i am not attacking the person, but the lifestyle.</p>
<p>lifestyle? what is the gay lifestyle? let me see, they shop, they eat, they work, they have kids, they pay taxes, they get old, they go to school, they have parents, they have relationships, they go to war, they go to church, they fight fires and protect our streets, I could go on</p>
<p>And wabash, why do you care what happens in the privacy of someone's home? I see men holding hands all the time...does that bother you, did it bother you when our President held a man's hand?</p>
<p>I mean what is the hetrosexual lifestyle?</p>