<p>Morals are a personal set of beliefs relating to right or wrong. Some can come from a person's religion. Others develop over time through a person's experiences. Morals can be influenced by outside factors (parents, teachers, friends, etc.)</p>
<p>Hopefully you are not going to turn around and use my words against me, claiming that gay people will negatively affect the morals of other people.</p>
<p>Wabash, you keep saying that you're not discriminating against homosexuals, rather, their lifestyle. To me, that just seems like you're trying to discriminate without being persecuted for prejudice/homophobia/whatever. What is a person if not the product of their lifestyle? And what exactly is there to discriminate against? Yes, there is perversion in the homosexual population, just as there is in the heterosexual population. But that doesn't stop homosexual couples from having a strong, loving, productive relationship, just as heterosexual couples have.</p>
<p>I feel blessed that I have never met someone quite so ignorant as Wabash- I honestly didn't know anyone so "young" could have such negative feelings towards homosexuals! It seems like such a thing of the past to me.</p>
<p>If you would just live your life and stay out of honest American's buisness, the world would be better off. </p>
<p>Morals are a personal decision based on an inner feeling of right and wrong. Out of respect for your fellow man, you use morality to decide if your actions will be detrimental to mankind or not. Some people need to derive their moral code of conduct from religious text and others derive it from what the believe to be right in their own hearts and brains. I'm not saying that getting morals from a "bible" or "koran" is bad. If it makes you not kill someone, it's obviously doing some good, but hopefully you don't need a bible to keep you from harming someone. </p>
<p>Since a person's sexual orientation is harmless to society and the only thing harmful would be to make them be with a partner who they would never really love (thus being awfully painful for both people in the relationship), what could be bad about letting gays share love with who they want?</p>
<p>The one thing this world needs is love and if someone is willing to share the greatest thing in the universe with another person of the same gender, I'll take it, because love is the most important thing in a society and the most beautiful thing in the world. If two people can manage to find love, I'll rejoice no matter who the people are.</p>
<p>Well said, elweezer.</p>
<p>Wabash, there is only one reason to be scared of homosexuality. It makes you uncomfortable. Sure, I used to be part of that majority, but as you learn more about the issue, you will get used to the idea boiling down to love. There should be a freedom for mutual love.</p>
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<p>like i said, it was only found in fruit flies, not humans, but there is the possibility. i'm glad to see that you're becoming more open minded to the subject. </p>
<p>i don't really think anyone would choose to be gay. why would they want to put up with the ridicule a cruel judgement of other people if they could all of a sudden just decide to be straight. one of my close friends is gay, he came out to me the summer of our sophomore year and at the beginning, he made it clear that he didn't choose to be gay, that was just how he was. close-minded people really annoy me because they're so damn attached to their own perception that they view everyone else as wrong. open your eyes because even if you don't approve of it, it's still happening and you can stay ignorant about it or you can try to open you mind to the subject and become a more accepting person.</p>
<p>Wabash, I think you are using your HIV "facts", erroneous as they may be, just as an excuse. Being gay is in no way detrimental to society. What you're really afraid to say is that homosexuality makes you uncomfortable, and you are so close-minded that you cannot bear the notion of 2 loving adults of the same gender having a relatonship together. This makes you not only a homophobe, but ignorant as well. Before you accuse the gay population of being HIV positive, prostitute, pedophile individuals, get your facts straight. And please, reevaluate your opinion, and at least make it sound convincing. Nothing you have said so far holds any water.</p>
<p>As for your question regarding morals, didn't we already have a discussion regarding this?</p>
<p>P.S. If I'm not mistaken, you're hoping to go to an all-male school, right? If so, change your attitude fast, because your ignorance will surely not be tolerated at a place with only males, and where there are bound to be some gay individuals.</p>
<p>I've read through some of the later parts of this thread and. I just want to clarify a few facts:</p>
<p>--Condoms do protect from HIV, but only if used properly. HIV can survive indefinitely when in human blood, but should an HIV particle be exposed to air, it becomes inviable within a few minutes. Therefore, as long as the condom shields liquids (which it does), the user is protected against infection.</p>
<p>--Over 90% of all sexually transmitted HIV is through heterosexuals (as of May 2004). I work for NIH and this is the statistic that NIAID established.</p>
<p>oh... btw, NIAID stands for National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases in case any of you were wondering what it was.</p>
<p>hes talking about practicing homosexuality.</p>
<p>morals come from all different places. there is no univeral answer. they form your conscience, not the other way around. for instance, illegally downloading a movie is stealing, no matter how you slice it. it hurts my conscience to illegitemately watch movies.</p>
<p>thanks lana, i am very open to science changing my positions.</p>
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id be a bit more diplomatic, like say hes "in denial." he just needs to open himself up to the evidence.</p>
<p>i think ive come to a revelation, we know conservatives and liberals operate on their own premises to base their logic, but on sexuality:</p>
<p>conservatives base that homosexuality is immoral (i acknowledge that you could have a homosexual slut just as you can have a hetero one).
liberals base that one should not judge others. (and Jesus taught not to judge others: "he who is without sin, cast the first stone.")</p>
<p>he also said "man should not lie with man as he does women"</p>
<p>If you don't agree with it don't participate in it :)
Some people don't agree with homosexuality but that doesn't give them the right to promote that view on others, its someones personal business. To some it does have something to do with morals. However in the case of churches refusing to marry gay couples that's perfectly within their right, it contridicts their views as a church. It's not a right to be within a religion it's a privelige and people should abide by the rules of the church.</p>
<p>yOU CAN GO STRAIGHT, SCIENTISTS HAVE PROVED THAT IF YOU DIDNT WANT TO BE GAY AND TRIED TO BE STRAIGHT IT WORKS. IT'S JUST THAT HOMOS DONT WANT TO BE STR8.</p>
<p>iwantfood: I agree ;)</p>
<p>Assuming your statement is true, why should people be forced to suppress/change who they are to please society?</p>
<p>guys french kissing in public is gross....ewe.</p>
<p>Anybody french kissing in public is gross. How does what two people do behind closed door affect you?</p>
<p>it doesn't?</p>
<p>How many of you have posted exactly the same thing as someone else? I didn't feel like going back through and counting, but it seems like we're voting (perhaps start a poll?) As far as I am concerned, I think all actions are choices (duh... isn't that the idea of free will?) but that our desires are not of our choosing. I can't help that I like geeky boys and whipped cream, but I can help sleeping with them and eating it out of the can (currently doing so.) That said, I don't think it is wrong for anyone to act on homosexual desires, so long as the action wouldn't be wrong for heterosexuals under the same conditions (ie cheating is still vile.)</p>