Cornell is less regarded among the elite but well-known among "commoners"?

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<p>@malan</p>

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<p>No, that was not the line nor the article I was talking about. Can you please stop throwing words in my mouth and assuming what articles I’ve read? I guess I’ll just have to show you the article.</p>

<p>[Strategic</a> Plan Moves Forward | The Cornell Daily Sun](<a href=“http://cornellsun.com/section/news/content/2010/10/22/strategic-plan-moves-forward]Strategic”>http://cornellsun.com/section/news/content/2010/10/22/strategic-plan-moves-forward)</p>

<p>If the link doesn’t work, go to the Daily Sun and search for “Strategic plan moves forward”</p>

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<p>After reading that, do you care to retract your statement? Or do you have to resort to calling me a ■■■■■ and shove words in my mouth again?</p>

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<p>^That article has been EXACTLY what I’ve been saying this whole time. If Cornell just stays the same while other top schools constantly move forward (whether if it’s by playing the rankings game or not), its ranking will fall and the quality of applicants will drop…creating a cycle until someone like Fuchs does something to stop this.</p>

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<p>I find the term “commoners” to be very offensive. What is this the 17th century? So thats what the upper class calls the middle class now a days.</p>

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<p>^ i live in a wealthy district and i’ve never called anyone or treated anyone as a “commoner”. I have friends whose families make less than 50k a year, but they are amazing people nonetheless. Income is just a number. What truly matters is individual prowess.</p>

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<p>I agree. “Commoners” has a negative connotation to it.
I’m not liking this.</p>

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<p>Malan89, I can see now that you’re no different than norcalguy. You attack me off of baseless assumptions and manipulate the things I’ve said to your liking, but when I prove you wrong you run away, humiliated, hoping the thread will die.</p>

<p>Why don’t you go read some of applejack’s posts and learn to politely state your disagreement without attacking others. That way in the case that you were wrong (like this one), you won’t be as humiliated. What has ILR been teaching you for the past semester? Definitely not manners or reasoning skills.</p>

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<p>Columbia09, please tell me that you didn’t actually get in to Columbia University…</p>

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<p>Wave, why would you not let this thread die. Take your personal arguments somewhere else or at least start another topic with a better title.</p>

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<p>Hahahahaha. Wow. You said the efforts to cut Cornell’s budget had to do with raising its US News ranking and then found an Daily Sun article where the administration said they want to do that (no s**t they want to do that, it’s not as if they want Cornell’s ranking to fall) as proof of this ridiculous assertion. I didn’t need to respond to that and certainty not in the window of time it seems you gave me to do so.</p>

<p>You and a few “other posters” that coincidentally just showed up and started posting heavily in the past week or so (and if you don’t think other posters besides me have noticed this trick, you’re mistaken) have been subtly mocking various parts of Cornell and its students, sometimes even claiming that you’re either a student here or ending your posts with something like “But Cornell is a really good school”, “I just want this to end the debate”, or “Everybody needs to calm down” in some silly attempt to lend yourself credibility.</p>

<p>Look, I get that you think it’s funny to get people worked up and put others down on the internet. But at this point, most people know what you’re doing and you’ve taken it too far. I’m sure you’ll probably see this as an invitation to ■■■■■ even harder, but I’m putting it out there anyway.</p>

<p>As another poster noted in one of the other threads you’ve started:

Sounds about right. Although you’re seeming less and less clever as you continue this ruse.</p>

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<p>I am so sick of hearing this about Cornell. This is not only a world renowned university, but also a highly sought out research institution.</p>

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<p>Ugh. I’m sick of this thread, too. Bottom line: Cornell is awesome. If you don’t think so, don’t apply. End of story.</p>

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<p>I guess you did have time to post on two other threads though, huh? Obviously I checked to see if you had logged on and posted before I posted that last comment. </p>

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<p>Antiflamer, would you want to drop a thread after proving a guy who seriously insulted you wrong and him running away? </p>

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<p>But I am. If I was guaranteed a million dollars for showing you my netID, I would. </p>

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<p>I’m sure you and like 2 others are the only real “dumb” ones here who think I’m a ■■■■■ with multiple accounts. </p>

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<p>You seemed to have insulted me for misinterpreting the article YOU were looking at, after telling me that nowhere did you find that they specifically mentioned rankings, esp. US News, and now that I proved to you that it did, you go off on tangents. How ignorant can you be? Why don’t you go through this thread again and read what you and I’ve posted, and you’ll see how foolish you’re making yourself look like right now. Especially take a look at the so-called assumptions that you thought I made by reading an article that you thought I read. Or do I need to refresh your memory by posting the quotes you made (esp. 85 and 86)? Honestly, admitting defeat is a sign of maturity you know.</p>

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<p>You’re the one looking less and less clever right now. </p>

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<p>I agree. But it seems like 1 ignorant poster who doesn’t want to admit that he was wrong keeps on aggravating me. Honestly, go through the last 3 pages of this thread and it’ll be pretty obvious who the bad guy making false accusations is.</p>

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<p>Excuse me…why TP9</p>

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<p>Moderator - please cancel this thread! It serves no useful purpose. Actually, it’s counter-productive!!!</p>

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<p>You’ve taken one snippet of coverage of the administration’s plan to cut Cornell’s budget that basically says they want to improve Cornell’s reputation and attempted to use it as proof of the inferiority of some of the colleges at Cornell and, consequently, an “inferiority complex” and hostile climate at Cornell towards those students. I don’t need to spell out how absurd that is; it says it all on its own.</p>

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<p>"Antiflamer, would you want to drop a thread after proving a guy who seriously insulted you wrong and him running away? "
You shouldn’t care. This thread is not about you or your petty personal disagreements. imo, this thread serves no real purpose. Just let it die.</p>

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<p>Mr. Malan89, it you who are making comments which make no sense. You insist on keeping up this debate, not answering anything posed to you, and somehow have nothing better to do with your vacation time then spend time on CC and making baseless allegations against us here who are trying to get information and be informative for members of the cc community. Enough already. If you have anything further, maybe start by answering the questions previously posed to you, which I will repeat here, such as how you believe that most cornellians would have picked cornell over princeton. Have you ever met such a person, or are you just saying that to make yourself feel better. Stop having an inferiority complex just because you (seem to) attend one of the state contract colleges. There is no hostile climate at cornell that I have ever read about. Yeah, some kids in CAS at cornell may think they are superior, but that is just because they were probably always elitist types. Here is the answer to all this: , this debate serves no purpose. whatever college you go to (if you really go to one) is what is best for you. no need to justify your choice of colleges. You are either joking with your posts or seriously believe what you say. Hey, you seem like a good person, but really - spending your break engaging in a debate which really has no meaning is a waste of time. Get out and enjoy the time with your friends, do something which is productive.</p>

<h2>Here is what was said in response to your posts…</h2>

<p>@malan - I just read your response to longcoatman.
No matter what, you won’t stop posting and resist any attempt to stop this nonsensical debate.
You say you (and most Cornellians) would go to Cornell over Princeton, and I think you actually believe what you say. Five points can be made: First, although you have not stated so, you must be in one of the state contracted colleges, which are specialized in nature and offer programs which are not based in the arts & sciences. Second, you obviously have not looked at the cross admit data that shows what happens with applicants cross accepted at Cornell and HYPS and the other ivys. Check it, I don’t think you’ll like what you see. Rarely does Cornell win the cross admitted applicant. But please don’t make a generalization that “most cornellians” would take Cornell over Princeton when you know its not true or even close to the truth. It is not what the data says, but you probably knew that and were just hoping that you could say something and people would believe it. Maybe that is true of some of the students in CALS, or Ecology or Labor Relations (that they would not choose Princeton because they wanted more specialization), but it is not and never will be a generally true statement as concerns students in the College of Arts & Sciences - never. Third, you need to understand that going to a state contracted college at Cornell is fine. Just be glad you got in and have the opportunity. No need to have a complex or anxiety over it. Just chill out. If that’s the college you wanted, then you are in the right place and stop stressing over it. It is only the College of Arts & Sciences (and somewhat the college of Engineering) at Cornell that really gets cross applicants with HYPS etc… - because HYPS, Brown Dartmouth are, like CAS, colleges of arts & sciences, which makes admissions at CAS very selective and difficult. <a href=“http://www.dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000003.pdf[/url]”>http://www.dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000003.pdf&lt;/a&gt;
Fourth, its unfortunate that kids in the state contract schools continually see the need to justify their college choice and say that it is as good as the Arts & Sciences at Cornell. Fifth, it makes no difference that the Arts & Sciences college has a much lower acceptance rate and higher stats with their applicants. The state contract schools are different and much more specialized, but equally prestigious and you should be proud that you go to one of them instead of engaging in this nonsense and waste of time. Sixth, when you get a chance, look through cc and you will see that it is basically the kids in the contract colleges at cornell that engage in this nonsense regarding elite status etc. no matter what, Cornell and all of its colleges (endowed and state) are amongst the best in the nation. You will never convince me otherwise.
Finally, instead of responding to this, just enjoy your vacation. If you really think anything here is not accurate, then I’ll make it easy so you can just chill out - “you are right, everything you say is great and everyone else is wrong.” Hope that works for you. Enjoy that vacation, do something that is fun, and good luck in Cornell.</p>

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<p>I have to disagree and agree in some ways with that. For me, i would never choose CAS at brown or dartmouth above cornell. brown’s cas is … meh… Dartmouth’s cas is stronger in humanities than in sciences, and imo premed is better @ cornell. I was considering Columbia’s cas, but its core and environment is not for me. I do not know about penn’s, but I do not think i can focus in my studies in that environment (having known other people that kind of lost their drive at penn). Yale I know nothing about. I do agree that I would probably take harvard or princeton cas above cornell’s, however. princeton cas would have been the top choice for me but the chances for an asian male to get in there is almost impossible even though my SAT scores are in them middle of the 99th+ percentile. However, cornell cas is the perfect fit for me and it is excellent in all aspects. I love the friendly atmosphere, the environment, the rigor of its academics, and the food (how can anyone not like that??!). Like i said though, I would not choose the other non hyp ivies’ cas over cornell’s (especially brown’s) :)</p>

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<p>@aznPryd, I’m with you. I wanted Cornell’s CAS, but was denied and deferred to the other college I selected on my cornell application, which is one of their colleges that receive state funding. Tuition is no different for me since I’m out of state. I think you should attend the college that is the best fit for you, and if that is CAS at Cornell I hope it works out. I agree with some of the things said by the poolboy post, but I’m afraid of saying so because some of the posters here will then start writing about me. I’m probably going to wind up at Michigan, but would have to think long and hard about Cornell if I get in RD.</p>

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<p>“I actually think universityin2015, poolboy, and wavedasher are the same person based on their writing style and the way they quote.”</p>

<p>What’s that song say?
“Don’t feel bad, 'cause two out of three ain’t bad”.
The two is not something to think about , it is a demonstrable certainty, and together with the posting pattern violates TOS.</p>

<p>"Actually, it’s counter-productive!!! "
Am I the only one here who knows how to use "Report Problem Post?</p>

<h1>117- this post is spot-on.</h1>