<p>a few quotes:</p>
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Schools for people who "think working hard is everything": Cornell, Swarthmore, Chicago, Johns Hopkins. Schools for people who like to have fun while still being brilliant: Brown, Stanford, Dartmouth, Penn, Duke.
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Non-competitve, relaxed. smart students
Brown, Stanford, Dartmouth, Pomona, Northwestern, WashU, Rice, Pomona, Amherst</p>
<p>AVOID
Cornell, Chicago, JHU
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<p>Hardly an objective opinion</p>
<p>busted!!</p>
<p>by Wharf - once again.</p>
<p>"It is, sir, as I have said, a medium sized university. And yet there are those who love it!"</p>
<p>Daniel "Wharf Rat" Webster-Cornell</p>
<p>The only person on this board who is qualified to compare both schools is SorGirl. She actually attended both fine institutions. Everything else is just hearsay.</p>
<p>From slipper's posts, it seems that he or she wants the rewards in life without bearing the associated hard work and responsibility. That kind of attitude will not get you anywhere in the real world, unless your daddy is rich.</p>
<p>i think everyone who has visited or attended cornell/dartmouth is qualified to make an opinion on the subject matter. the thing that turns me off about this conversation is how insecure people are, like who has to show how sweet their school is by posting rankings? i really don't think anyone is going to be turned off from applying to one of these schools if some cc'er says "wait, but my college is better!!!" so like chill guys.</p>
<p>I think I visited Dartmouth way back when applying for undergrad - ended up at Edinburgh then Sydney (both sh..). For undergrad I strongly recommend a smaller school, although class size is by no means large here at CU and everyone is extremely friendly and approachable. I will mention that classes are very much mixed between grad students such as myself and undergrads...as long as you can survive the profs will let you in. Extremely chilled place to study although the workload can be horrendous, particularly in hotelie grad classes and real estate courses. The Johnson school is brilliant, great teachers and a bit less of a workload depending on what you take. Have heard great things about the negotiations classes, and can personally vouch for the leadership class - ex johnson dean teaching it.</p>
<p>Dunno, hope this helps ;0</p>
<p>ps I also recall visiting Dartmouth and Brown (and I almost forgot Amherst), and I think some of the west coast schools such as pomona are supposed to be very undergrad friendly (ok a plug for my bro's college Bard in upstate NY). There are other places with a lot of prestige such as Berkely (my old man lectured there), Columbia and Chicago but they probably won't have the small town atmosphere of big red. Depends what you want to do I guess. I'm in business/finance, so in that regard UPenn (Wharton), Gouizeto (Emory) and others are right up there or at the top (Especially Wharton)...and f.. harvard of course.</p>
<p>Some of the reasons a person might prefer Cornell Arts & Sciences to Dartmouth are:
- they prefer a larger, university setting
-they prefer to be with a wider range of types of fellow-students, not just Arts & Science types
- they value the added course offerings that the other undergraduate colleges provide.</p>
<p>For example, back in antiquity one could take wine tasting in the Hotel School, Human Development in the HUm Ec school, Natural Resources in the Ag School. All valuable courses that can enrich one's life. I myself did an independent study in solar energy with a prof. in the Ag School. One-on-one, naturally. I understand that now there's a poular nutrition course in HUm Ec that, along with providing more long-term useful knowledge, is helping students combat "the freshman fifteen".</p>
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<li>they value a wider course selection period.Due to its size and its grad school, Cornell will likely have more course offerings, especially advanced ones, in most subjects. This can be important, particularly when one comes in with a lot of AP credits.</li>
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<p>One might prefer to be in Cornell's setting of natural beauty, but I've never been to Dartmouth; might be nearly comparable I don't know.</p>
<p>An engineering student who really wants to be an engineer would probably prefer Cornell in most cases. Due to breadth of courses, coop opportunities, and more. An engineering student who doesn't want to be an engineer, or is equally passionate about Arts & Sciences, would have more of a decision to make IMO.</p>
<p>Someone who wants to seriously pursue studies in: Hotel adiminstration, Industrial and Labor Relations, Hotel administration, Architecture, Agriculture & Life Sciences- likely would prefer Cornell, which actually offers these.</p>
<p>For straight Arts & Sciences, as far as inputs and outputs Dartmouth is appropriately compared only to Cornell's College of arts & Sciences. Much of Cornell's data is aggregated for all colleges, so it tends to show up lower on many of these "percentage" metrics than Arts & Sciences would look like by itself. </p>
<p>As far as I recall, IMO, Dartmouth has always had a more selective student body. One can reasonably take that into account. Whether that alone makes a school "better" than another is a matter of opinion, apparently.The differences are not huge though. And I've observed that an individual who does well at Cornell can go on to do anything. If you are good, Cornell is more than an adequate springboard to help launch your career.</p>
<p>Generally, as schools get smaller issues of fit can become more important. Given Cornell's size and diversity, most people can fit in someplace. I can't say about Dartmouth, but perhaps one's relation to a prevailing campus culture could be an issue to consider. In my day Dartmouth was considered to be comparatively conservative, pro-business at a time when this was rather less in fashion. Don't know about now.</p>