<p>does anybody know?</p>
<p>Since decisions aren't out yet, how would anyone possibly know?</p>
<p>Isn't it hard to determine even when decisions come out because
A) people probably weren't the bare minimum (AKA the last pt)
and
B) they assign points differently for stuff like CS, Family Status, etc.
Judging by how people are saying "match" and such for "chance me" threads on this and the UC general forums, I would say the thing would consistently hover around 5500~6400 since by far the most points (6900/11000) are from SAT and GPA whereas the other stuff is like 100~300 pts depending on circumstances.</p>
<p>The point cutoff is actually supposed to be around 7400-7500, at least for recent years.</p>
<p>"Isn't it hard to determine even when decisions come out because"</p>
<p>No, you just call the undergraduate admission office and ask them how far off you were from the cut-off point if you were rejected. Most people do this to decide if they should appeal the decision.</p>
<p>Don't do this if you are accepted, I learned this from personal experience. They'll tell you, but they'll get annoyed.</p>
<p>How do you appeal really? I ask this because I"m really close to the past cut off point..</p>
<p>around 7468ish..</p>
<p>So yeah..it really depends.. :(</p>
<p>how do you knowyour points? (how do you calculate it)</p>
<p>Stolen from the UC general forum:
UCSD Freshman Comprehensive Review Process (Dec 2004)
courtesy of Joe Ogilvie, former PHHS head counselor
All UC eligible applicants receive a review that considers a combination of the following academic and personal achievement factors. UCSD used the specific scoring rubric shown to award points for fall 2005.
Admission Factors
Maximum points
Academic achievement factors
constitute 77% of the maximum points available
Grade point average x 1000 - Includes a maximum of eight (8) extra semester grade points for approved honors, AP, & UC transferable college courses. This component is capped at 4500 points
4500
All required examinations, SAT I and SAT II x 0.8 (SAT I Verbal & Math; SAT II Writing & Math, and SAT II Subject Tests). See the UCSD General Catalog, pg 35 for an ACT to SAT conversion table
3200
The number of A-G semester courses beyond the minimum specified for UC eligibility
33-39 courses: 250 pts
40 or more courses: 500 pts
500
Eligibility in the Local Context (ELC) (300 points for ELC applicants)
300
Educational Environment- Identified schools which fall into the 4th or 5th quintiles (300 points for applicants from 4th and 5th quintile schools); PHHS is not eligible
300
Socio-Economic Factors
Low family income
Parental income <$60,000: 150 pts
Less than federal TRIO low-income cut-offs: 300 pts
300
First-generation college attendance:
Using most educated parent:
Some college or 2-year graduate: 150 pts
High school education or less: 300 pts
300
Personal Characteristics and Achievement Factors
Demonstrated leadership:
150 pts for two or minor roles, (President or VP of club, captain or co-captain of team,
secretary, treasurer of class or school)
300 pts for one or more major leadership roles, (President. or VP of class or school, Editor-in-Chief, Eagle Scout, Girl Scout Gold Award)
300
Special talents, achievements and awards: Single 150, Multiple 300. Examples are Talents/Achievements outside of school - Black belt, creative entrepreneurship. Awards outside of school setting - Must be first, second or third in a league, regional, citywide or wider competition, i.e. Boys? & Girls? State, RYLA, science fair, sports teams, academic decathlon, academic league, Hugh O?Brien award.
300
Volunteer/community service: Demonstrated charitable work or community service not compensated with pay or
class credit. List specific duties/tasks! Highest total combined hours over two years
100-199 total hours: 150 pts
200+ total hours: 300 pts.
300
Participation in pre-collegiate/motivational and enrichment programs: AVID, EAOP, commercial and school test preparation courses, etc.
1 year: 75 pts
2 years: 150 pts
3+ years: 300 pts
300
Special circumstances and/or personal challenges:
Examples
Single parent household: 250 pts.
Working to contribute to family income AND
a minimum of 20 hours per week during a school year: 250 pts.
Life altering event (foster care, death of immediate family member, personal involvement in a life trauma): 500 points
Less severe event/situation: 250 pts
500
Maximum total
11,100</p>
<p>Basically, your GPA and your SAT scores account for 7700 (my mistake) out of 11,100 possible points. The rest of the points is basically your ECs, CS, Awards, special circumstances, etc.</p>
<p>"How do you appeal really? I ask this because I"m really close to the past cut off point.."</p>
<p>Write them a letter stating why you want to appeal. Normally, they want to see something that you did not put on the application that would have helped you during the admission process.</p>
<p>Here's a useful link:
<a href="http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/compreview/0308_meeting/appeals_matrix.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/compreview/0308_meeting/appeals_matrix.pdf</a></p>
<p>Ack, I got a 7576 (if I did it right ... hopefully I did) I'm rather close to the cutoff point.</p>
<p>that's great cuz i think i left</p>
<p>Participation in pre-collegiate/motivational and enrichment programs: AVID, EAOP, commercial and school test preparation courses, etc.</p>
<p>SAT prep class counts as one right?</p>
<p>Uh, SAT prep class isn't really going to help the decision at all... that particular category is generally for things like academic camps over the summer like Center for Talented Youth at JHU and programs like that.</p>
<p>so does that mean like summer programs?</p>
<p>Participation in pre-collegiate/motivational and enrichment programs: AVID, EAOP, commercial and school test preparation courses, etc.</p>
<p>"commercial and school test preparation courses"</p>
<p>why can't that be SAT prep classes?</p>
<p>Well, just logically, why would taking SAT prep increase your chances of getting in to college? If anything, isn't the SAT supposed to be just a way of standardizing intelligence, in order to compensate for the varying levels of difficulty that are found at different high schools? And so for a test that's supposed to be indicative of someone's natural intelligence, as a college admissions officer, I personally wouldn't be more impressed with a candidate had I known that he/she had extra help in taking the SAT. If UCSD actually gave points for having taken any SAT classes, I would be really surprised, because it would indicate that they consider those classes equal in value to academic programs such as CTY and EPGY.</p>
<p>Based on the strict interpretation of the rubric given, SAT prep courses count as enrichment programs that reward points. Sad, but true.</p>
<p>Wow, that is sad.</p>
<p>Proven wrong!</p>
<p>i took sat classes and didn't list it...</p>
<p>i never actually thought it would count for something...</p>
<p>Someone explain what those programs are PLEASE!!! I don't get it. Would Prefreshman Engineering Summer Program count or a Summer Science research program?</p>
<p>Where was one supposed to put that they took an SAT prep course? The essay? I didn't mention it at all because it would've sounded, at least in my perspective, that I bought my SAT score.</p>