<p>I don't see how that's working for you man. You're cooking, planning dates. You're putting time and effort and money. She's pretty much just showing up.</p>
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They dont ask for it, I give. I like to give because I enjoy giving more than receiving.
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<p>i know a lot of guys like that, and i certainly wouldn't think of them as submissive or as b---ches. haha lethargy just sounds like a nice guy who likes to make his girl happy, and she probably appreciates that.</p>
<p>how lucky are you with the ladies, collegehopeful?</p>
<p>I don't cook every time. Girls have cooked and baked things for me. Made me cards and given me gifts. I don't put that much time besides cooking, which is a hobby of mine. I'm not the only one who plans dates, the counterparts too. Its about giving on both parts of the relationship, doesn't always have to be about money. Honestly if you really both like each other, perhaps love alos, you'd know what i'm talking about.</p>
<p>i know a lot of guys like that, and i certainly wouldn't think of them as submissive or as b---ches. haha lethargy just sounds like a nice guy who likes to make his girl happy, and she probably appreciates that.</p>
<p>Too bad there's no women like that.</p>
<p>Oh so bitter. You'll find the one sometime.</p>
<p>I'm just saying that guys are always the ones giving and girls always the ones taking. There's no such thing as a woman who likes to give more than she receives or even give equally. You'll learn lethargtym.</p>
<p>Obviously you haven't met the right girl or the amount of experience on your part is vastly low. I have learned and I stick to what works best for me it just happens to coincide with what i like.</p>
<p>The second I find a girl who likes to give more than she gets or even believes in giving equally I'll marry her.</p>
<p>Why has this thread turned into one about giving and receiving? So inappropriate!!!</p>
<p>Well while you two argue it out....I'd just like to say that I'm glad my current relationship is pretty close to 50/50 when it comes to give and take.</p>
<p>^^amen .</p>
<p>Because that's a major gripe men have MightyNick.</p>
<p>Usually relationships benefit women more until after college. There's women who dote on men also in the same way lethargy suggested. Doting on anybody is not attractive. It shows a lack of respect for yourself.</p>
<p>Cards4Life has the right type of relationship. It shouldn't have to be 50/50 at all times but it should balance out.</p>
<p>Leah didn't we establish that your bf gives more?</p>
<p>lythargytm - be who you are - dating isn't about counting - when you give from the heart good things come around - if they don't, you are not with the right person - one of my daughters favorite dates/surprises with a new guy was a sushi picnic and bottle of wine watching a sunset to celebrate the end of exams - also new guy wrote of very nice poetic card about what he liked about her (handwritten) - she in turn has made several dinners at her apartment to treat him - confidence is very sexy, treating someone the way you want to be treated is weak - also people come from different backgrounds and appreciate different things. Scary movies are great bonding experiences - just be sincere if she isn't the one, naybe one her of friends will take notice to what she is missing. Good luck!</p>
<p>Findmepete. I dont think you read the entire thread but thanks. And that who I am.</p>
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Leah didn't we establish that your bf gives more?
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<p>um..i don't remember establishing that at all; please refresh my memory.</p>
<p>when it comes to day-to-day outings and things, he probably pays for us both more often (although most of the time we go dutch), while i exert more effort into holidays & birthdays. also, to be honest, he can be slightly self-centered sometimes when it comes to making time for each other. except he can also be kind of clingy other times, which sounds like an impossible combination, but i guess you wouldn't really understand unless you were actually friends with us. in bed he admittedly probably gives more than takes, in case you were wondering.</p>
<p>so, in sum, we're on a pretty even keel, i'd say.</p>
<p>but also i definitely agree with findmepete that being with someone isn't about keeping tallies and forcing "equality"--if you're right for each other, it'll just feel that way.</p>
<p>yeah, the order of my posts always gets screwed up and i don't know why..</p>
<p>Ehhh I've missed a lot and I don't feel like reading everything again so I'm just going to jump in.</p>
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<p>That's what you said, and not all the arguments supported the fact that guys spend more AND do more of the nice gestures. I'm being finicky, yes, but just needed to set that straight.</p>
<p>Collegehopeful, in general your posts seem to have the underlining tone of bitterness towards women.</p>
<p>in bed he admittedly probably gives more than takes, in case you were wondering.</p>
<p>I was. Thanks.</p>
<p>Well there's things you can do to even it out the number of "gifts" in bed.</p>
<p>haha i can pretty much promise you he's pretty satisfied, and he's one of those people who is even more satisfied when his partner is.</p>