Decisions?

<p>If anyone has talked to their high school counselor before, did any of them show you an index sheet that looks like the one on this link?</p>

<p><a href="http://www.cwu.edu/%7Ecwuadmis/pdf/ai-table.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.cwu.edu/~cwuadmis/pdf/ai-table.pdf&lt;/a> (It says it's for Central Washington but the chart is the same for all public colleges in WA.)</p>

<p>My counselor also mentioned that people with an index in the upper 60's used to be considered "automatically admitted" a few years ago. That's pretty close to what Dopke said about 1200 SAT and 3.7 GPA.</p>

<p>I don't really trust the index too much though. From what it looks like, more people have applied to UW in the past few years and that'll make their standards higher. </p>

<p>Man, I'm pretty worried about getting in. So what makes UW appealing for you guys?</p>

<p>(FYI - That index only really applies to in-state applicants I think.)</p>

<p>:( But wouldn't the instate standards be lower than the out of state ones? According to this chart, I won't get in!</p>

<p>No worries! I'm sure you have a great shot at getting in. Like I said, I don't trust that index chart. UW says it considers lots of other stuff too, like cultural experiences, good essays, courseload difficulty, etc... That's why I focused on asian-american culture for my essay.</p>

<p>You're from out of state? Did you apply to other schools in the west then? I'm considering cali and oregon schools. Except UO, ick.</p>

<p>The AI is used for all public washington universities. You can find info about it here. <a href="http://www.hecb.wa.gov/Research/issues/admissionsindexinfo.asp%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.hecb.wa.gov/Research/issues/admissionsindexinfo.asp&lt;/a>
UW will not tell what the AI is for automatic acceptance.</p>

<p>According to this article, AI for UW for the c/o 2004 was 78, up from 77 for c/o 2003. From that, I would assume this year's is 79-80. Which I expect to be pretty accurate. Which is about a 3.7 and 1210 SAT.
<a href="http://www.washington.edu/alumni/uwnewslinks/200411/article_demand.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.washington.edu/alumni/uwnewslinks/200411/article_demand.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>A 3.7 with a 1210 will get you a 70 AI score. Here is my analysis on the increase in AI score required for automatic admits to the UW. As a result of the U. of Michigan case universities are restricted in using overt affirmative action criteria to admit some students. In addition, the people in Washington passed an initiative making overt affirmative action illegal in any case. Therefore, the UW has decided to do covertly what it cannot do overtly; load up the admissions process with a ton of subjective stuff so they can meet their diversity goals. Reduce the number of automatic admits and you have more room to play around. A 3.7 with a 1210 would have gotten a higher AI score last year but the scaling has changed.</p>

<p>A 3.7 and 1210 only gives you 70 AI... Did you mean somewhere between 3.8-3.9?</p>

<p>Heh, my AI is below average then.</p>

<p>Oh yeah, nevermind, I was looking at the old AI chart. New AI, 79-80 AI would be 3.8 GPA 1340 SAT.</p>

<p>It's weird/sucks that they changed it just for one year for c/o 2005. They've been using the old AI chart up until c/o 2005. And since New SAT is coming out next year for c/o 2006, a new AI chart will have to be made. They should've just kept us on the old AI chart which I stated would have been a 3.7 GPA/1210 SAT for a 79-80 AI. :)</p>

<p>That just gives me more reason to worry. If they kept the old chart, I would have been in the auto-admit range. So much for that this year. Would that mean that the average AI of incoming freshman will be lower for C/O 2005?</p>

<p>Yeah, the actual AI number will be lower than before, but the SAT scores and GPA will still go up. </p>

<p>eg. c/o 2004 average AI was 78. A 78 on their AI chart would have been a 3.7 GPA / 1200 SAT.
c/o 2005 with the current chart a 79 would be 3.8 GPA / 1340 SAT (which I think is awfully high). I think a 74 or 75 might be around where the AI should be for us this year on the new chart. That's a 3.7/1300 or 3.8/1220.</p>

<p>O_o My AI is 73... I hope it's the lucky number. Of course, I wouldn't mind it being lower either. =)</p>

<p>Question: Why do you suppose the ratio of GPA to SAT is 3-1 for calculating the AI number? Why is it assumed the GPA gives a more accurate indication of college success than SAT? I assume they are thinking a high GPA is reflective of hard work? I don't dispute that but there is a fair amount of grade inflation as well. In any case is think the 3-1 ratio is out of line.</p>

<p>lol u pple need to stop worrying =P. You can't really do anything about it now and trying to get more info on wheter u got in or not will make things only worse. Just chill and wait for an answer (if ur close...it'll take til March)</p>

<p>It's 2:1 ratio I think. GPA is 2/3rds of AI, SAT is 1/3rd. I think it's better, and a lot of colleges count more on GPA. SAT is just a test and anyone can study for it and do fairly well. But there's also those like me who study hard for it and still don't get great SAT scores. It just isn't an accurate representation. </p>

<p>seven- even if you apply by priority, if you are close you will not know til later? I had thought all priority would know by the latest, late January or so?</p>

<p>Maybe yes, maybe no. Perhaps many kids study really hard in a particular class and just don't get it and their GPA sinks like a rock? Maybe grade inflation accounts for a high GPA?
Maybe a person avoids PE or re-takes a class or has a teacher that grades using subjective criteria; you are a good kid; an athlete; a this or that; here's your A. And, maybe you do work very hard and deserve every point of that 3.9. However, I would argue giving 75% to GPA and only 25% to SAT is not warranted. I would agree, however, that an SAT can be bolstered by multiple re-takes and expensive classes and so on. If I were running admissions I would take the highest SAT of the first two exams only.</p>

<p>:/ It's so hard not to stress about it even though a lot of us here we'll eventually be accepted. Just cause atleast for me a lot of my friends already accepted and they have lower SAT/GPA scores AND applied 2 weeks after me.</p>

<p>Has your application been looked at yet?</p>

<p>No, on myuw.washington.edu it says that it's still awaiting a preliminary review.</p>

<p>Dopke you are not defined as "close." I told u...ur gnna get in TRUST ME (unless u hvnt met a req). Someone is close if they got a 3.5 1120 in state or something (if they got a excellent essay and applied by priority they ll probably get accepted but not til feb-march).</p>

<p>edit: "1290 SAT and 3.97 UW GPA" will get u into some very good colleges (including Whitman...which is the hardest college to get into in WA)</p>

<p>Yeah... but like I said up there, its just cause other people applied after me and had lower scores? What I'm more worried about is somehow it being lost or something. I applied Nov 4th, and I would have thought they'd be able to give it a "preliminary review" 4-5 weeks later. :/</p>

<p>My application is still awaiting preliminary review and they've had it since November 5th! I'm thinking that I'm going to have write a letter of appeal because I don't have a junior year transcript.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.lakesideschool.org/leep/college.htm#uw%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.lakesideschool.org/leep/college.htm#uw&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I found this website about the AI for UW interesting..</p>