Deferred from FSU. What Now?

<p>Florida State University is my top choice and I really want to be admitted. I wasn't upset when I saw that I was deferred. I was actually happy because I was expecting to be denied (I was relying on the CARE program to be accepted). I know students at my school who have higher GPA's and SAT test scores who were flat-out denied, so being deferred has slightly boosted my confidence.</p>

<p>I applied with a 22 ACT, 1440 SAT, and a 3.08 GPA.</p>

<p>I think they liked me because I showed a steady improvement throughout High School. </p>

<p>Freshmen year, I had mainly C’s, Some B's, and 1 A. Sophomore year was mainly B's . I failed a class (that I made up - passing with an A) I also received two D's. Junior year was my real improvement. I received mainly A's throughout the whole year - 12 A's (by quarter) and the lowest grade being B's (5). My GPA improved from a 2.6 to a 2.8 to now a 3.08. I also became a member of National Honor Society when I got my 3.0 GPA.</p>

<p>I have to send my mid-year senior grades. Which I am happy about since I received straight A's my first quarter and I have 5 A's and 2 B's this quarter. One of those B's will become an A before I must send my grades.</p>

<p>Before the decision, I retook the ACT & SAT. They received my new ACT scores which improved to a 23. And I increased my SAT score to a 1500, they have yet to get the scores though.</p>

<p>I have applied to CARE also.</p>

<p>What is your opinion on my chances?</p>

<p>Your only chance is through the CARE program. Your test scores are extremely low.</p>

<p>Honestly, I’m very, very surprised that you are still in the running with your stats! Also, your SAT does not even meet minimum standards……
I would immediately contact admissions and inquire as to what they are looking for…
BTW- You are one lucky applicant…</p>

<p>It’s the upward trend they like, that’s why she was considered. I actually shouldn’t have been accepted as a transfer but I had a great upward trend so I got in. They like to see progress and give people a chance. Don’t undermine her bc she doesn’t have a 5.0 or whatever. The fact that she went from a 2.6 to a 3.0 is impressive. Some kids hit rough patches in the beginning but it doesn’t mean they aren’t smart or deserve to have the education they desire especially w a great upward trend.</p>

<p>The upward trend will definitely be a benefit, but the fact that you failed a class plus had two more Ds could potentially be killer. Last year people were denied acceptance to FSU likely because of just one D on an otherwise very impressive application.</p>

<p>Unfortunately, CARE would really be the only way you would get accepted. </p>

<p>Also, FSU does not see quarter grades (especially if from a public high school in Florida). All they see are semester grades. Those are the important ones. You have to think in terms of how you did in each semester, not each quarter.</p>

<p>Call the CARE office directly on Monday and try to get past whatever student might be answering the phone to one of the CARE directors. Let them know you are truly interested in the program itself but try to get an answer as to whether or not they still have spots open. They get thousands of applications for those ~360 spots. If they do still have slots open I would start a full on campaign to get in through that program. Emails, phone calls, etc.</p>

<p>I was under the impression that CARE students did well in High School but just needed some assistance with acclimating and assimilating into college life.</p>

<p>I had no idea that CARE accepts unqualified minority candidates.</p>

<p>ilovethe47, this bothers me about the CARE program as well. It seems a lot of woefully underqualified people use CARE/Summer Bridge program as a back door into FSU.</p>

<p>Thank you ilovethe47 & LookOverThere for definitely insulting me. The CARE program is about giving students a chance. If you look at the CARE program requirements, they lower the normal FSU requirements to reach students that show financial need. No one uses the CARE program as a back door, it is a door that is open to all students. I am very offended by your statements “woefully under-qualified” and “unqualified minority candidates.” Just because someone doesn’t have a 4.0 GPA or higher, does not mean they do not deserve an education from a great university.</p>

<p>Most good schools have some kind of “reach out” program for under-represented minorities. I understand why some might feel that it’s “unfair,” but the idea is to find those diamonds in the rough who come from diverse social backgrounds, but appear to have the potential to succeed. </p>

<p>If anyone wants to rail against “back doors,” recall that anyone can get into any Florida public school by getting an AA and like a 2.5 GPA, including UF and FSU.</p>

<p>FSU and UF are PUBLIC universities. They have a duty to establish a path for a wide population of students. The CARE Program has been an enormous success for Florida State and first generation students.</p>

<p>While many of us Florida State alumni want FSU to be as elite as any private Ivy League schools, this will never happen. I am content with FSU being a “Budget Ivy” as reported in the New York Times.</p>

<p>TO OP-
In no way am I am trying to insult nor belittle you regarding your chances at admission, but in your opening statement you posted your high school academic record and requested guidance on how you could overcome your deferral as your stats were way below required to obtain regular admission along with the typical applicant.
-PASBAL- suggested that your only chance at acceptance would be through the CARE program and you also indicated that you had hoped that you could become accepted through the CARE program, although you didn’t indicate how you qualified for the CARE program other than your less than stellar academic record.
I can assure you that you gaining acceptance to FSU via the CARE program has absolutely no effect on me as and I a graduating senior @ UFL. My only concern is that as a CARE candidate, you will be obligated / encouraged to attend CARE classes such as;
CARE College Algebra, CARE English & CARE Speech.
I’m just curious, that if you graduate from FSU as a CARE student, will you also have the insignia inscribed on your diploma,</p>

<p>“CARE STUDENT, HANDLE WITH CARE” .</p>

<p>Could someone point me to programs similar to CARE at USF, UCF, or UF?</p>

<p>CARE students are underqualified compared to the normal students. That’s why there are tons of people on here always asking about CARE. They can’t get in any other way except through CARE. People who haven’t proven they are good students in high school can have a second chance in community college.</p>

<p>The CARE Program at Florida State does not coddle students. Anything but.</p>

<p>See here for more: [Tampa</a> Bay Times(2007) </p>

<p>More blacks succeed at FSU
A program for first-in-their-family college students helps them stay - and finish - at above-average rates.](<a href=“http://www.sptimes.com/2007/11/19/State/More_blacks_succeed_a.shtml][I]Tampa”>http://www.sptimes.com/2007/11/19/State/More_blacks_succeed_a.shtml)</p>

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<p>^^
My exact point. Many, not all, but many prospective freshman applicants with less than stellar high school academic records are using the CARE program @ FSU as a back to enter FSU as compared to the regular hard working freshman applicant that has to compete with other highly qualified students.
In my opinion, many CARE students who did poorly in high school and during their senior year have an epiphany and realize that they had wasted their opportunity to attend a great school such as FSU by not taking high school seriously, begin to look to admission alternatives such as CARE. Presently, CARE @ FSU enrolls some 1100 students and I believe that these 400 CARE spots would be better suited by increasing the regular freshman class @ FSU with regular deserving applicants.</p>

<p>Most entering freshman student @ FSU and most other state supported schools throughout the US have financial difficulty paying for college. Many come from divorced families and many earned their high school diplomas in “less than average” public high schools. Also many entering freshman have at least one parent who never attended college and the student is unable to obtain any guidance regarding college life from their parent. WOW- I think that I just had an epiphany……
I guess everyone, one way or another will qualify for the CARE program………</p>

<p>My daughter, a Caucasian female, is CARE 2011. She had a 3.8 unweighted GPA coming into FSU, was salutatorian of her class, first generation college student, had completed 15 dual enrollment hours as her school did not offer AP or IB courses but her SAT and ACT scores were lower than the average FSU freshman admit. She qualified for a PELL grant her first year at FSU so there was financial need. She took classes in the summer bridge program, fall, spring and summer and entered her major as a junior one year after starting at FSU. This semester she made the Deans List and continues to make upward progress within her major. Her current course load each semester is 17 credit hours and she will graduate four years after entering the CARE program at FSU with her Masters in Special Education with an emphasis on Autism and Profound Disabilities. She is heavily involved in her sorority, she is part of several on campus groups that give back to the community in different ways and volunteers at a local special needs school in addition to fulfilling her required practicum hours every semester. That’s my definition of a CARE student at FSU. Take from it what you will.</p>

<p>Most of the so-called academically stellar students at FSU and UF are white, wealthy, females - typically the best students of any demographic. I asked FSU’s President once why we couldn’t raise freshman standards faster and was told FSU could, but the student population would be like this.</p>

<p>Likewise, UF and FSU were again rated by Kiplinger as “Best Value” universities because many students graduate with less debt. A lot of this is due to the fact that many students are from wealthy families who can pay for the costs of a university education.</p>

<p>CARE is for those who have less opportunity or have unusual hurdles to overcome. There were some 350 students accepted to the FSU CARE program last year. That is not that many for a large state university like Florida State.</p>

<p>I completely agree with you and you make a lot of sense. By the Way, tell the 350 other students that were denied enrollment at FSU because of the care program that it really doesn’t matter. Also by the way tell the same 350 Students that did very well in high school are not going because 350 students who did poorly are going. Like I said you’re correct it doesn’t matter…</p>

<p>I understand your point. You are correct that this kind of policy raises the hackles of FSU (or UF) alumni who want their children to attend their alma mater. Indeed, as standards increase it becomes difficult for the offspring of alumni to qualify for admission. The staff at these schools hear about this a lot. Being a “legacy” candidate means a little, but not much. </p>

<p>It’s not a perfect world. I certainly worried about my kids being accepted. In retrospect, though both were top percentage students, we took no chances with admission. Both applied early, both had personal appointments with Admissions and met with faculty in their areas of interest and so on. The chance of missing admission is real.</p>

<p>^^^
Well, as a recent graduate of UFL and waiting to start graduate school this fall, I as a student thank you for being a hardworking and caring parent who had the foresight in doing everything necessary to ensure that your kids had the best chance at admission into their chosen school.
Now, should your kids of had been punished for all your hard work ?</p>