Does Vassar need males that badly?

<p>I've been looking for information on CC for people's thoughts about a few LACs (Grinnell, Colgate, Oberlin, and similar..), and I've seen a few times now, that "Vassar really needs guys" or if you're a guy and it's a reach, it's actually a match. By being male, does this actually significantly improve my chances of admittance? Thanks everyone.</p>

<p>U. S. News just published some research on this question (the short answer to your question is, often, yes):</p>

<p><a href="http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/articles/070617/25gender.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/articles/070617/25gender.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>And there's another similar thread going on now, devoted to a related topic:</p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=368643%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=368643&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>It's always smart to try to apply to colleges that have a niche that you can fill. Having a skewed gender balance makes it harder for a school to attract members of either sex (guys don't want to only hang out with girls, girls don't want to have diminished boyfriend options), and so if you see a school with more than a few percentage points difference between the genders (and Vassar is 40/60), it is very safe to assume that the "minority" gender enjoys an advantage in admissions. </p>

<p>Of course, there are schools with even gender distributions that have to admit one gender more heavily than the other to reach that balance (I believe MIT is an example (for the opposite gender)), but you have to know a little bit more about those schools to suss that information out. </p>

<p>Along those lines, it is always helpful to look at geographical distribution as well...at my school, because of it's location, 25+ people each apply to WashU and Northwestern, while only 3 or 4 apply to Johns Hopkins, a school of similar size and feel. Never hurts to cut down your competition by 1/5!</p>

<p>Vassar needs males?</p>

<p>Don't worry, ladies. Your shipment has just arrived. Just sign on the dotted line...of love.</p>

<p>Oh yea.</p>

<p>Vassar needs males, but not that badly.</p>

<p>Of the four extremely qualified males I know to apply (i.e. if I were running Vassar, I'd take all four in a heartbeat), only two got in. One applied ED. Another was tops in grades and scores and got into other schools besides Vassar. The other two I know who really wanted to go are now at Oberlin and Carleton.</p>

<p>Of the females I know to apply to Vassar, the only ones I know to get in also got into ivies and other super-elites. Even the ones who did not get in were also great students, and I was surprised that Vassar didn't take them, either.</p>

<p>This makes me think that Vassar is hard for males and harder for females, rather than hard for females and easy for males.</p>

<p>I will always hope to be the delivery of your dreams, unalove.</p>

<p>Unless you're a dude. </p>

<p>Intriguing.</p>

<p>This is so not creepy.</p>

<p>Anyway, a parent who relayed some info from a Vassar admissions officer posted that males make up only about 20% of the applicant pool but ~40% of accepted students.</p>

<p>you offend me, 'tisthetruth.</p>

<p>CC does not need to be bland and unromantic. LET LOVE LIVE.</p>

<p>Oh honey, I'm sorry.</p>

<p>I meant no malice.</p>

<p>Two of my close friends were rejected from Vassar this year. They're matriculating to Oberlin and CMU, so obviously they were qualified.</p>

<p>Vassar is more or less OK with its gender ratio. That's just how it is...</p>

<p>You can beat around the bush, but yes vassar needs males pretty badly.</p>

<p>The stats I found on the USNews site in their 2007 edition (HS Class of 2006 admit data I think) are</p>

<pre><code> Men Women
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<p>Applied 1947 4367
Accepted 746 1057<br>
% 38.3 24.2
Enrolled 273 377</p>

<p>Other acceptance % differences men vs. women were
Princeton 11.2 vs 10.6
Brown 17.2 vs 13.6
Amherst 19.1 vs 18.4
Haverford 27.4 vs 25.2
Swarthmore 25.1 vs 20.4
Tufts 32.1 vs 25.4
Conn College 36.7 vs 34.5
F&M 30.5 vs 25.6
Wesleyan 30.5 vs 25.6
Harvard 9.3 vs 91</p>

<p><a href="http://registrar.vassar.edu/factbook/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://registrar.vassar.edu/factbook/&lt;/a> has some data on Male vs. Female performance and I think the Common Data Sets for colleges may have data as we. It is tricky to compare in some cases as the enrollment student body may look different than the accepted group. Naturally, as far as getting in you care about the accepted figures.</p>

<p>It might be somewhat easier for guys at Vassar but don't bet on it. D got in by S didn't the year before. They seem to be quite serious when they say they are looking for at least an unweighted 3.7.</p>

<p>My son didn't get into Vassar, will be going to Wesleyan. You just never know.</p>

<p>Unalove...you are right. Vassar is very difficult to get into, all around. Of course a super-interesting and qualified male is always of interest to a school with a gender imbalance. However, I was surprised to find, when my daughter ultimately chose to attend Vassar, several years back, that lots of schools have a large disparity between men and women, with far more women in attendance. Check out NYU, for example. A few years back, and maybe this is still the case today, Columbia and Tufts, to name a couple, were also heavily imbalanced. Of course, check for current figures, but I think you might be surprised to find that many schools have far more women than men. Check it out. I'd be interested in what you find.</p>

<p>I should add, that my son, who attends Hopkins and had a 1500 SAT and 780 Writing, was accepted to Vassar. However, a couple of his equally qualified friends, with amazing ECs, were not. Regular decision, especially, keeps everyone guessing as to what might happen in terms of admission in any top school. Even the son of an alumna who does a lot of fundraising for Vassar was deferred, then finally admitted, with very similar stats. So no one, female or male, should take admission to Vassar for granted. It is tough and quirky.</p>

<p>Approaching a narrowed list based on whether Vassar needs males?</p>

<p>Perhaps you need to apply to Marlboro College or New College where males are on the menu?</p>