<p>I don't think Tufts is worth the money. I went there for two years, hated it and dropped out. I now go to UMass and I have to say that the teachers are better, the facilities are better, there's better support services and the tuition is much, much better. Just putting it out there and where you get your undergraduate degree doesn't matter. No one cares, so don't waste your money. I also know people who loved tufts, but i still don't think that it's worth the high tuition. Even if you get financial aid like i did, you'll be paying off your student loans for decades.</p>
<p>Er...a little subjective, isn't it?
Plus paying off student loans is going to be a problem a lot of people are going to face unless they go to a state school.</p>
<p>"Just putting it out there and where you get your undergraduate degree doesn't matter. No one cares, so don't waste your money."</p>
<p>Then what does matter? I believe that an undergraduate degree assists is directly related to your first job, internships, and even to your graduate degree!</p>
<p>The two are hardly comparable. For undergraduate studetns alone, UMass is literally 4 times the size of Tufts. The average SAT's for UMass are approximately 150 points below the average of Tufts (which might help explain why the OP thinks the teachers are better and the support services superior at UMass). Another thing I find very interesting is the racial diversity at Tufts compared to UMass. With 77% of UMAss students hailing from Mass and nearly the same % is from out of Mass at Tufts, this barely even begins to hint at the diversity of Tufts over UMass. The only thing I can see as similar is the ratio of men to women, and the state and suburban locale. As for costs, this is clearly something only the student/family can assess, but there are lots of inherent, nuanced and substantial differences between a public and private college education. And please don't infer that different means "better" because it doesn't. It all depends on what you're looking for in a college experience.</p>
<p>I can see that you are a new member and that is your first post. I assure that the CC community can make their own judgments and posts like that are not to the level of this community.</p>
<p>Well said bellisima.</p>
<p>It is truly, truly subjective. You have a right to your opinion but there is no reason you should make other Tufts prospects think something else of it. There are so many people out there, including myself, who love Tufts and WANT to be there. Obviously, if everyone shared your opinion then Tufts would not have the thousands of students that it does – and the school would not need to reject ¾ of their applicants, most of whom really, really want to be there. You were not happy there, and you didn’t find it worth it. It’s important to learn in life that everyone’s different. There’s a majority and then a minority in most polling situations, and I hate to make it obviously clear that you’re part of the minority of people who dislike Tufts. And that is perfectly fine, because it’s YOUR opinion. Your opinion does not make your statement true.</p>
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<p>LOL. You go Modadunn!</p>
<p>I have nothing to say to the OP - honestly, I just think that he failed at doing his research before coming to Tufts, because UMass and Tufts are completely different. Or, maybe he just didn't know what he was looking for in the beginning, but after going to Tufts, realizes it.</p>
<p>Who knows - whatever it is, now that I see it's your first post, I really don't feel like welcoming him/her to CC :P</p>
<p>if the OP is telling the truth, than i am thankful. how often does anyone get to hear about the downside of their perspective college? If its actually someone who went there, then I would like to know why they didnt like it. No college is perfect and I do agree that too much importance is placed on our undergrad college. My cousin went to indiana State University for undergrad then went onto Harvard Law. Tufts is also ridiculously expensive (College:</a> 25 Most Expensive Colleges For 2008-2009). That said, I also applied to Tufts EDII, but that doesnt mean I think its the most perfect college in the world. I would like to know what real students do not like about it, not other kids like me who are just going on the what the college tells us about itself.</p>
<p>I agree Rome, but beyond tuition, he didn't really say why he thinks the teachers are better at UMass. And that's a really subjective word. By better, does he mean easier? Less in depth or more involved with his students? Taught by TAs(Grad student) or an actual professor? </p>
<p>I agree that talking about where a college may fall short or an area that may need improvement is helpful, but this poster didn't even say why he hated it. Another purely subjective word.</p>
<p>All of this said... 5 of my kid's seven schools are from that stupid list. (College: 25 Most Expensive Colleges For 2008-2009). <shaking head=""> Why am I not surprised? :)</shaking></p>
<p>Oh good luck Mod.. I don't feel like typing it all out, but then again it make no sense in typing why I didn't type that. Okay, lack of sleep. </p>
<p>I agree -- he didn't really go into the flaws about the schools, he just stated that they exist. All schools have downsides, but that's why you evaluate and research your choices before you commit yourself</p>
<p>He's basically saying "don't go to a private college for undergrad." I don't see any real arguments that are Tufts-specific other than price, which applies to virtually all private institutions.</p>
<p>That list is stupid, because even though Tufts is on the top 25, most schools are going to be within the $47-50k range. Is 3 thousand/yr really that big of a difference? I guess in total, 12k is a big deal & it adds up, but considering Tufts is only 48... I would say most schools fall in the 47-range, if not a teeeeny bit less.</p>
<p>As the one who pays the bills (ok I don't pay them, but I see them and hand them to the spousal unit), I will say there is a HUGE difference between an in-state school vs. a private school in terms of tuition, but I think there are some really huge benefits in attending a smaller private LAC, provided the student is engaged.</p>
<p>I am SO excited for my S to go to college. I will miss him terribly but if there is anyone I know who loves to learn -- about just about everything -- it's him. What he loves about Tufts is there is a lot of opportunity for interdisciplinary learning which practically defines him.</p>
<p>^ Jess2000, private universities are all going to be about this expensive. Obviously your opinion differs, but it isn’t based on any particular fact about Tufts. And faculty have nothing to do with the school’s cost. Please refrain from bashing Tufts, particularly as you seem quite ill-informed about the educational system in this country.</p>
<p>Do you realize how condescending you sound? She got into Tufts and didn’t like it. That’s all. Maybe it is technically a “better school” but there’s no point in going if you aren’t happy there.</p>
<p>I totally agree. I really appreciate hearing the negatives about all of the colleges I’m applying to so I can make a more informed decision and have a more realistic idea of what to expect.</p>
<p>trolls… just starting trouble…probably bitter they were denied…pretty typical ■■■■■ like behavior…</p>
<p>THe criticism of Tufts is quite vague–no specifics, as if…the person didn’t attend at all. Also, the timing of the post is suspicious. Day after decisions are out.</p>
<p>What Tufts gives you is a community of very intelligent, motivated people–who are also pretty unpretentious—an incredible variety of activities to participate in, small classes and caring teachers, a really fun social life—good party scene despite reputation to the contrary–but most important, it is a place that fosters, really fosters, creativity and risk taking. My friends are starting businesses, making tv shows, creating public serviced organizations, joining, leading, doing. Despite its great academic rigor, not an ivory tower sort of place. Tufts pushes you to try things that you can than bring to the world outside its gates. That’s really the magic of the place, in my opinion.</p>
<p>“THe criticism of Tufts is quite vague–no specifics, as if…the person didn’t attend at all. Also, the timing of the post is suspicious. Day after decisions are out.”</p>
<p>Yep…definite ■■■■■ stirring up trouble…most probably denied at Tufts at some point…</p>