<p>Oh and i'm rank 11
top 10%</p>
<p>little, I would think your chances are excellent.</p>
<h2>"UNC has some great departments like theatre and English."</h2>
<p>?? Well let's also not forget the #2 ranked School of Public Health (tied with Harvard behind Johns Hopkins), top ranked Business, Journalism, Entrepreneurship programs and very well respected med school and law school.</p>
<p>I think maybe your memory needs a little dusting off relaxwolf. I have visited my own alma mater only to realize that memory has a way of polishing the past to an unrealistic sheen. Honestly, UNC campus is beautiful and while I don't know of many fraternities kept in pristine condition, UNC's are certainly well above par. As an oos parent who visited MANY schools, I can say we were very impressed with the town and campus infrastructure. In fact, I'm baffled at your whole post....especially where you say 'no put down' while you are actually putting down UNC.</p>
<p>My d turned down Cornell, UT-Austin Honors, Honors and full rides or near fulls at Texas A&M, UF, Tulane for UNC. She did not think she would be accepted at Carolina, and was thrilled when she received a likely letter. As far as the number of oos accepted in comparison to the number who actually attend, I think the answer is here in these posts. These accepted kids do have options and UNC IS competing with Ivies, Stanford, WashU, Rice, etc... (I don't consider UVA to be of that caliber school btw.). I think many of these highly qualified kids who do end up at UNC receive generous merit packages which, in addition to very low oos costs, makes the school all the more enticing. And the same can be said for the highly qualified in-state kids, many of whom also have the same options as oos students but choose Carolina because they can get a prestigious education for a ridiculously small cost.</p>
<p>Btw... my kid is female, non-athlete, and received a lot of warm and fuzzy from the Admissions Office.</p>
<p>My daughter applied and was accepted OOS for the class of 2010. She didn't attend, so I can't speak to the current experience. However, we do know someone who is a junior there and loves it.</p>
<p>We understood when she applied that OOS you needed at least a 1450 (SAT or ACT equivqlent) and a good class rank. If you look around their web site (at least you could find this in 2006) UNC had a schedule of classes you should have taken in high school, the more closely your course of study correlated to the list, the stronger your application was. In short, they were looking for an academically strong well-rounded student. Every student that has gotten in to UNC from our area met this criteria.</p>
<p>relaxwolf's post was actually made in 2004. He just sounded bitter to me. I thought his comments were out of left field and just seemed way off the mark. I am skeptical that he went to school at UNC, to be honest. Even though his is an old post, the comments about UVA are odd, too. UVA, while an excellent school, doesn't get much support from the state of VA. They may as well be private. And W&M is in the same boat-- another great public school, but receives so little money from VA, that they may have to go private. They're in some trouble financially, from what I hear. ??</p>
<p>Whoa...you are right janie. And I was just thinking the op and his post sound strangely familiar! Definitely having a bit of deja vu. </p>
<p>Folks if you are going to revive an ancient thread, try to shoot for the the noncontroversial ones. ;) (littlehamsterz - you should have just started a new chances thread.)</p>
<p>Idmom, your last post here intrigues me. My son has very good OOS stats, and applied EA. But he hasn't received the likely letter, although I don't see that as any big deal. I do wonder when or if the admissions office might show him some warm fuzzies. Not a peep from them thus far. In another post long ago, Cloying told us the adcom pulls the top 200 (or some number) applications for special review and possible invitation to scholarship weekend. Would that keep the app out of the likely letter stack, do you think? Another poster said she never got a likely letter, but wound up as a Carolina Scholar. You can peobably see where I'm coming from now. I wish I had some idea of what's going on!</p>
<p>Interesting question, merkur. And what about those that did recieve the LL?</p>
<p>I don't know of anyone who has been able to correlate the LL with much of anything. Cloying, a very bright and informed student, put little if any significance to it. Obviously, one would prefer to get the LL than not, but there seems little if any consistency or rhyme/reason to the process overall and these LL. One would think getting one portends bigger things, but that does not necessarily seem to be others' experience.</p>
<p>Well, it was very nice hearing from UNC.</p>
<p>merkur - Unfortunately, I haven't a clue about the likely letter process as it relates to other scholarship sifts. I do know my d was a pretty strong candidate with some unusual stuff on her resume....NMF with everything from nat'l champion competitive cheerleader to ROPES high course counselor to TX state champ/nat'l bronze medalist in senior performance at NHD. She also had received special recognition from the State Board of Education for some accomplishments. And she was still very surprised when she received a likely. She applied at the very last minute in the regular decision round with some paperwork going in late; and it seemed she barely had everything in before she received the likely letter.</p>
<p>Honestly, I think her essays were unusual and well written...she is an excellent writer...and I think those essays caught someone's eye in the Admissions Office. You hear it time and again about UNC..."pay attention to those essays"...and I do think this is the best advice out there.</p>
<p>Thanks, Idmom. Your D is obviously very accomplished and UNC quickly recognized that. I hope S's essays measure up.</p>
<p>Maximus, please don't think for a moment that I am trying to say "sour grapes" about the likely letter. Anyone should be very happy to get one. I'm probably trying to rationalize a possible sow's ear into a silk purse. Enough fable allusions for one day. It'll all work out in the long run.</p>
<p>" i think i have some chance just because my hook is pretty good having a black belt in jujitsu and also that I play 3 varsity sports and am the captain of one of them"</p>
<p>the majority of applicants to UNC lettered in at least one sport, and i'm sure a good number participated at a high level. i wouldnt say doing those things really puts you at an advantage, bc they are the norm at unc. good luck though, i hope you get in!</p>
<p>We visited UNC in June of '10 and my out-of-state daughter really loved this campus. THis visit was on the tail end of looking at several schools: Wake, Elon, and Duke. She loved this campus. It seemed to have a great vibe. She knows it will be a tough road trying to get in despite her 4.3 gpa, prez of NHS, and 30 on her ACT. But she’s willing to put herself out there and give it a shot. I was amazed at the PRICE! UNC seems to be an out of state bargain compared to other schools we have visited.</p>