Emory University / Oxford College Class of 2023 Thread

@emorynavy it is good to know Emory matches scholarship from peer colleges. Do you think W&L would be considered as a peer? In niche.com Emory ranked 27th and W&L 36th.

@singingbear
I think so. All you can really do is ask tomorrow. How much more did W&L give?

Glad to hear that @emorynavy , Thanks! My D was a Johnson finalist … didn’t make it, but good portion of the tuition, 4 year renewable.

EDIT I read your question again, and looks like I misunderstood about the ‘match’. My D actually doesn’t get any scholarship from Emory. Based on your question: “How much more did W&L give”, Emory matches the difference?? No match from Emory for my D then…??

@singingbear and @emorynavy : Peers are not based upon rank of undergraduate program by any publication, nor are they exclusively based upon undergraduate programs (in fact that may be a very small consideration). They are based upon what the school itself designate as peers which is based on somewhat arbitrary criteria that usually includes admissions and applicant overlap at the undergraduate. I suspect W&L would have little overlap and the that Boston University would have less (though more than W&L) overlap versus others that it does considers peers and neither were on Emory’s peer list. Emory updated its peers maybe 2-3 years ago and decided to exclude “aspirational” peers for example like Harvard or Yale (meanwhile many other more closely ranked and close performing privates may still include them). And believe it or not, but most schools in the top 20-25 or so schools should only consider those two as “aspirational” peers. but the point is some schools may determine it by some different criteria. Like Harvard or Yale may label several sub-10 USNWR schools as “peers” but it may not be based on how close in caliber and endowment they are and just the fact that they are generally of high caliber and share some other similarities they find important. Other schools may have more stringent criteria.

Either way, let us avoid throwing this term “peer” around so loosely, and we need to be careful about the whole “match” thing. When they did this in previous years, the admissions decision letters would explicitly invite students to lobby for matching (or at least revealing) financial aid packages of a very specific list of schools (it actually may not have even have been intended to facilitate matching so much as it was to do some spying to figure out how aggressive near ranked and similarly endowed universities assigned need-based aid so that Emory could figure out how much it would need to improve in the future to compete against those schools). I know WUSTL was among them and that makes sense. I also think those clauses were limited to certain admits and not everyone. You can try to get them to reconsider, but don’t do it under the pretenses that those schools are what Emory considers peers.

What are the main differences between Oxford and Emory?

The main difference is that one is a small liberal arts college 45 minutes outside of Atlanta and the other is a medium sized university on the edge of Atlanta. Oxford offers smaller classes with better leadership opportunities since there are only freshmen and sophomores. The Oxford students move to the Druid Hills/Atlanta campus at the beginning of their junior years. Just make sure that you know what you’re getting into when applying to one, another, or both. They are different college experiences.

@bernie12 called Oxford fin aid office this morning. Was told they are out of merit based aid and they can not match with Boston/Case Western merit aid.

@DSOF20192023
So if Oxford off the table?

@emorynavy I think so. If it is Emory main campus, would have thought about full payment.

@DSOF20192023 : Oh, this was merit aid. Yeah, not shocked. The old ones were for need-based I am sure.

And NO, you should not think about full payment if on main if you wouldn’t for Oxford. To me that doesn’t make much sense. Case and BU are excellent and definitely worth going to with a decent discount over many higher ranked undergrad. programs. Differences are mostly subtle and petty differences in prestige and not oppurtunity specifically for undergraduates. I would say be very thankful you got a good offer from those two :wink: . I know we are supposed to blindly cheerlead and I am supposed to agree with that sentiment as it shows deference to my alma mater, but I just can’t.

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will oxford give me more aid if i call or prob not?

@DSOF20192023 : No, I mean you were saying something very-“pro” it, and I’m saying you shouldn’t worry about it or pay full freight if you have two other excellent offers from other excellent schools. These top “x” schools have a little additional prestige I guess, but aren’t worth full freight if you can go somewhere great for a discount. Emory is no exception. And yes, Atlanta is a special place. Just not enough for ECAS to be worth full-freight if Oxford isn’t (I also think people underestimate what students can be involved in at Oxford even if Oxford is somewhat distal from Atlanta. They are actually known for streamlining students into certain positions and opportunities early on. ECAS is definitely great if you are outgoing and can “do for self” in terms of taking advantage of Atlanta though, but many from outside of Atlanta seem to have a hard time learning the ropes of Atlanta on their own, so it takes many until 2nd or 3rd year anyway). My overall point is that it is Emory’s loss, and some other great places (one in another city people consider amazing) gave a sweet offer. No real loss for y’all IMHO.

@purplecattt
They won’t if you didn’t get better aid at a similar caliber school. Just wanting more money doesn’t work, I’m sure everyone would love a full-ride lol.

has anyone received their accepted students envelope in the mail yet?

@Workinghard1 Not sure that they send one, they didn’t for ED. Some stickers came in the mail a couple months later but that was it.

For Class of 2022, they sent out some very huge letters with some nice graphics. Maybe they are trying to reduce their carbon impact this year.

Dang I wanted some free stuff

Article in The Wheel about how competitive it was for Class of 2023. The most interest takeaway for me was California being the top state for admitted students.

NEWS
Emory Admission Rate Drops to 15 percent
By Ana Kilbourn Mar 27, 2019

Emory’s admission rate dropped 3.5 percentage points this year to 15 percent, according to Associate Vice Provost for Undergraduate Enrollment and Dean of Admission John Latting.

“That’s pretty big,” Latting said. “It’s only a 3.5 percentage point difference but it actually is a 19 percent change in admit rate. We’re admitting almost 600 fewer students.”

The number of admitted students increased by 9 percent. A total of 30,017 prospective students applied to the College of Arts and Sciences, a record high.

Oxford College admitted 3,432 students. Approximately 17,500 applied to both Oxford and Emory College.

Approximately 10 percent of the admitted class are first-generation college students.

This year, the average, unweighted GPA for Emory College admitted students was 3.86, a 0.1 increase from the previous year. The median for last year’s admitted class GPA was 3.91 and this year’s class has a median of 3.92.

The average SAT score for incoming freshmen is 1471 while last year’s incoming students averaged a score of 1459. This year’s median SAT score is 1490. Last year the score was 1480. The mean ACT score for a 2018 admit was 32.9 while in 2019, the mean was 33.1. Considering the highest score given per applicant, this year’s median ACT score 34 and in 2018 it was 33.

Latting said the admissions office hopes to reach its target of enrolling 1,370 incoming freshmen. The predicted yield rate of admitted students who will enroll is 30.4 percent. Last year, the yield rate was 28 percent.

“Emory is getting a bit more successful over time at enrolling the students it admits,” Latting said. “We’ll see in the month of May.”

California applicants received more acceptances than any of the 49 states represented, including Georgia. The number of high schools represented in this year’s cycle of admissions was 2,562.

Latting said that the University accepted a lower number of students from Georgia, citing the school’s goal of being a “global institution” and the increasingly diverse demographics of the class of 2023.

Accepted applicants spanned 106 different nations and spoke 81 different first languages. Latting said these statistics exhibit an “amazing level of diversity.”

Latting said the growing applicant pool demonstrates a rapid increase in interest in Emory.

“Later classes will start looking and getting a sense of the quality of students admitted and enrolling,” Latting said. “We’ll see Emory is really at the forefront. It’s really among a top group of institutions.”

1,370 target students in this class is a major reduction after the last two classes.