Emory vs. Tufts

<p>so i'm deciding between emory or tufts for ed2, and have visited both schools but cant seem to come to a decision. although the emory campus was absolutely gorgeous and the campus vibe was great, i'm worried about the materialistic and snobby emory stereotype. is this true in any way? i already live in new york and dont want to be surrounded by long island japs for the next four years
as for tufts, pretty campus, and i think a little nerdier student body but more globally driven. also, they have a good IR department. but their campus cant compare to emory's</p>

<p>any help?</p>

<p>Tufts turns you down on purpose if they think you’re Ivy League material. They hate being used as safety. If you can get in all 8 Ivy and you want a rejection letter just to be “normal,” apply to Tufts. (Had to throw in for the hell of it lol)</p>

<p>Emory for ED. </p>

<p>Dude, screw the snobby Emory students. You’re there to get a good education, and they got one. Why let a-holes prevent you from going where you want to go? The benefit will override the cost at the end when you get out of there. Just stay away from those people and forget about them in 2 seconds if you run into one (which you will). Every top college has a share of these people.</p>

<p>But don’t forget about the down-to-earth ones.</p>

<p>^ Emory doesn’t have a lot of snobby kids, or at least everyone I know is really cool and not snobby. There might be 1-2 snobby kids who are annoying, but they are easy to avoid, because THERE AREN’T VERY MANY OF THEM.</p>

<p>I agree with Colleges00701.</p>

<p>I’ve met very few JAP type snobs. In fact, I can remember the few I have met because they stand out so much…</p>

<p>Hmm… I think the student body at Tufts is better than the one at Emory. But, as you’ve said, Emory definitely has better facilities and better campus. Also, I think the professors at Emory are better than those at Tufts.</p>

<p>Many Emory students are satisfied with the education they receive mainly because of the professors; a lot of times, top Universities have professors who are so submerged in their research that they neglect the students, but according to many alumnae, it isn’t so at Emory.</p>

<p>Also, saying that snobs don’t exist in Emory would be false. Many top Universities have them. More in some colleges than some; but the Tufts’ students are preferable to Emory while Emory trumps in the educational and facility aspect. And as they say, it all depends on who you befriend; simply ignore the snobs, there are more people who aren’t at every college.</p>

<p>Good luck deciding, but I would apply regular to both rather than binding yourself to either one; also, melin talks about “Tufts syndrome” but that’s a disputable misconception seeing Tufts is really picky on who they think “fits” in the university and many applicants whose scores are stellar are rejected and their feelings get hurt so they call it, “tufts syndrome.” Not every college is for everyone and every college wants different types of students. See whether you think you will fit in or not.</p>

<p>Also, if you come down here to Georgia, you will definitely miss the snow…I’ve been missing it for years; can’t wait until I go North ;)</p>

<p>Theroad, you make really good points
I think i will apply to tufts ed2 despite the horrendous weather up north. from what i’ve read, even though their students are a tad nerdier, they are more politically active and focused on the whole “global citizenship” package that tufts prides itself on, and since i wanna be an IR major, i think its the smarter choice for me</p>

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<p>Tell me this is subjective.</p>

<p>melin, it’s definitely subjective; I only made that comment based on the stereotypes of the student bodies of the two institutions. </p>

<p>As happy28 wants more IR major and more “global” community, I’d say Tufts would be a better choice although, in my opinion, Emory’s educational facilities are superb.</p>

<p>Go with what feels a good social match for you since both schools are excellent. And if one campus is a bigger aesthetic “turn-on” for you, then that is a significant feature for you. Some kids don’t care (although I think Tufts quite beautiful). If you are interested in such things, Tufts acceptees, overall, probably have higher mean GPAs and standardized test scores than those of Emory.</p>

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<p>They’re pretty close on the tests.</p>

<p>Tufts –
CR 25%- 670 75%- 740
M 25%- 670 75%- 760</p>

<p>Emory
CR 25% - 640 75%- 750
M 25%- 670 75% - 750</p>

<p>According to these-</p>

<p><a href=“http://institutionalresearch.tufts.edu/downloads/FactBook2008-09Abridgedapril09update.pdf[/url]”>http://institutionalresearch.tufts.edu/downloads/FactBook2008-09Abridgedapril09update.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://www.emory.edu/PROVOST/IPR/documents/factbookprofile/CDS_2008_2009.pdf[/url]”>http://www.emory.edu/PROVOST/IPR/documents/factbookprofile/CDS_2008_2009.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>And continuing SWHarborfan…if you care about these things, Emory is #17 while Tufts is #28 in the USNews National Universities Rankings</p>

<p>[National</a> Universities Rankings - Best Colleges - Education - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/national-universities-rankings/]National”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/national-universities-rankings/)</p>

<p>And for more rankings, check out this feeder school rankings (this is the ranking of schools according to the percentage of its graduates who go to the top business, medical, law schools etc). The list is for only the top 50 colleges; Emory is #36 while Tufts is #45.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.wsjclassroomedition.com/pdfs/wsj_college_092503.pdf[/url]”>http://www.wsjclassroomedition.com/pdfs/wsj_college_092503.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>So I guess that means Emory is better than Tufts if one decides to over-generalize the whole school.</p>

<p>TheRoad since you are saying that Tufts students are preferable to Emory students you have attended both, right? I mean, that is the only way that claim has even the slightest bit of merit.</p>

<p>I don’t know, I’d say Emory students are pretty “worldly” so to speak. That’s not really the knock on them, and I would guess they’d stand up to Tufts students as far as their knowledge on current events and world history. I admit that I don’t personally care, because I’m pretty much an anarchist and almost never agree with what’s going on. But I know my friends talk about global politics all the time.</p>

<p>I think if you reword “snobby” to “self-absorbed”, then you probably have something. Sometimes I feel like Emory students are in their own little world, and think that everyone wants to talk about them, what they’re doing and what’s going on in little so and so world. Consequently (and this usually happens after freshman year), everyone’s always off doing their own thing. Emory kids are always busy. If you’re not busy, you’re lazy. So people end up wasting ridiculous amounts of time doing routine things. Like if my roommate has a blank schedule, he still won’t come back until about 10pm because he “needed” to study in the library even though I’ll know he only has about an hours worth of work to do. I have no idea what he’s doing, but he stays there for like 12 hours just to stay busy. It makes college much more stressful than it has to be. Some college students go to class, study to get their 3.5s and just hang out the rest of the day. That’s what makes college the best time of your life. It’s 4 years to do whatever you wanna do. But that doesn’t fly at Emory. You gotta be busy. The few that aren’t have no one to hang out with because everyone else is “busy”, so they’re forced to find something to keep them occupied. I literally spent 2 hours a day just running last year, because I had nothing else to do. I got in good shape tho :)</p>

<p>^ Self-absorbed, huh. And I thought colleges admit people who would SHARE their diverse backgrounds and be able to accept others’ diversity as well rather than</p>

<p>Nevermind.</p>

<p>Right but what is admissions supposed to do about that? College applications are meant to highlight how awesome the applicant is. How can you tell if that person is self-absorbed? Do they brag even more than everyone else? What exactly is the tell? Besides I’m sure Emory is loving that its students are always off doing something, you know…an active student body. I don’t think they see any reason to change the admissions process or somehow make it more about character than academic qualifications.</p>

<p>Consider this. They need something to distinguish the students. Just as all the other elite universities, you get an applicant pool in which almost everyone is extremely qualified based upon their “stats”. This explains why admissions essays have become increasingly important because they have the potential to reveal character. For example, often people in admissions at top universities can see through “robotic” responses to admissions essay prompts such as the classic “which work experience did you enjoy or learn the most from?” A similarly or equally statistically qualified person who cited a personal story or a particular incident during the course of the employment that was of some influence to the overall experience may have a better chance at admission than the person with a well-written/B.Sed generic response.</p>

<p>And I also believe that responses to some of the essay prompts can reveal rather a person is pompous or arrogant. The essays are essentially a written interview. One can tell that they are not merely used to test writing skills or a mere venue for the students to boast their accomplishments. My understanding is that, in at least some cases, the tone of the writing is judged with the substance.</p>

<p>That would be an interesting question to ask someone in admissions, because I think an arrogant tone would be easily picked up by a peer reviewer or a parent too. So I don’t think a reviewed essay would sound so pompous by the time it got to the college. But maybe Emory applicants are undervaluing the essay and not revising. I don’t know but it’d be interesting to see if admissions officers really read a lot of arrogant essays and how they react to them. It might not be as condemning as you think, since some essay prompts almost force you to boast, like describe an obstacle you’ve had to overcome or what do you consider your greatest achievement and why. When I applied, the online app let you write an essay on anything. I remember I wrote mine on fantasy football, and I know it didn’t fit a prompt or answer any questions about myself.</p>

<p>It may indeed not be very condemning, but one of friends at Emory cited a case in which another top student (who was apparently a friend at the time who, since he was valedictorian, believed he would automatically be admitted into every top school) from his school apparently wrote really pompous essays and got rejected or wait-listed at all of the elite universities he applied to including Emory. Yes, I agree that the prompts do intentionally encourage and invite boasting, but you don’t want the tone of your essay to stand out in a negative way from the others. It should be pretty difficult to for your essay to stand out as pompous when applying to elite institutions. Perhaps some students believe that their essays don’t need peer reviewing or refuse to adjust the essay in accordance to the criticism (other than mechanic and grammar issues).</p>

<p>Look into Tulane. The application is free so there is no down side to applying.</p>