Fall 2014 Transfer Applicants

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<p>@masqalree A direct quote from your earlier post: *“you seriously think that upenn decides on name values, gpa, and test scores only? No wonder you didn’t get in. But then I didn’t get in either who thinks that your essay tells more about you than your gpa.” *</p>

<p>Although this wasn’t quite an intelligible sentence, I deciphered as you saying that you believed the essay is more meaningful than GPA. Again I apologize if something got lost in translation.</p>

<p>“You just made an argument that I am trying to prove something here, so it’s on your part to explain what I am trying to prove here.”
Well you lashed out at my original response to you which you mistook to mean that I believed Penn admissions only took one’s current school ranking, GPA, and test scores into account so I suppose you’re trying to prove that they also judge other factors, such as the essay, when making decisions. Honestly, I don’t disagree with that but you keep acting like I am and continue to respond in an unnecessarily aggressive tone. I understand you might be upset about not getting in but I really hope you are not a reflection of the student body at Cornell. </p>

<p>“No I am not astounded by my rejection”
An earlier quote says otherwise: “Wish I could talk to someone who got in to find out why I didn’t get in.”</p>

<p>“based on your writings so far, it seems that you have some sort of complex regarding top school vs average/low-tire school. I don’t know where you come from, but if you judge people or yourself based somewhat, and I did say somewhat, school, that shows your low self-esteem. Because self-esteem is independent of any external factors. Everyone accepted on this homepage aren’t from top schools that you refer to lol.”</p>

<p>You continue to bring up self-esteem as if it has any relevance in the conversation. I haven’t mentioned anything about my views of top schools v. average or lower-tier schools but considering your lackluster writing skills, I think I can chalk up your misunderstanding to poor reading comprehension. Let me clear up my views for you - the school you go to does not have any bearing on what you can accomplish. With that said, top schools often will provide a better medium for accomplishing one’s goals simply because they, on average, have greater resources available to their students. Additionally, if you think that there is no significant “brand name” factor associated with top schools, I hope for your sake that you are not pursuing a career in finance like I am. Regardless of whether or not there is a legitimate difference, a resume with Penn or Cornell on it is going to get a second glance. I guess that may be your point of contention and that is just fine, you can have your own opinion. Again this is a generalization and based off my own observations so it is by no means an objective fact. </p>

<p>“If is offensive but no offense. I just can’t stand that I am going to the same school as people like you… But then, it is on my part to avoid so, this I would do.”</p>

<p>Again you still haven’t really clarified what “people like you” means but to be honest I don’t really care. You’ll just have to suffer through knowing we’ll both be at Cornell next year :)) </p>

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<p>As someone who is trying to decide between the two…you guys are making me nervous about Cornell. ;)</p>

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<p>@william95

  1. tells more about you doesn’t mean meaningful.
    Of course essays tell more about you than gpa.
    gpa=your brain+perseverance at most
    Essay= your life story.
    If i have to explain everything word by word…
    And if you decide to decipher my writings the way you want it to be read… </p>

<p>A tells more about something than B. (mere observation that A gives more information about something than B. no values attached)
A is more meaningful than B( values attached meaning that A has more value than B)
See the difference?
If you can’t see this subtle difference you are either insensitive or dumb. </p>

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<li><p>Of course I want to find out why I didn’t get in because I want to learn something out of this admission process, which I mentioned above. It is a legitimate question to ask for the reasons why I was not accepted. And I asked penn about that which they said they can’t give because the admission was based on discussions of panels so there is no specific person to give me the answers that I want. That is why I said I “Wish I could talk to someone who got in to find out why I didn’t get in.” Knowing why I didn’t get in helps me in one way or another. Why do you think that that shows me being astounded? Just cannot understand the way you comprehend things. </p></li>
<li><p>You having no self-esteem is my observation of you based on your writing here, which I didn’t say it because it is relevant, but because it is my observation. But I will admit its irrelevance does matter since this platform is regarding transfer application. </p></li>
<li><p>you’ll see people like you when you get to Cornell(not that everyone is like you here, there are decent people here as well) and you’ll hang out with people like you so you’ll never realize what kind of person you are. You never know what you are unless you really detach from yourself and see for yourself what you are. You can’t even understand the simple statements that I have laid out here, so I don’t expect you to understand what I am saying here. </p></li>
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<p>and you are a transfer. hardly will we ever be considered the same.
Although it was very interesting the way people like you see things and understand me. It helped me to realize that to make people like you understand me I have to explain everything word by word. Somethings are just better to be left out of my life because there are other ■■■■■ to deal with. </p>

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<li>Of course I am not a reflection of cornell student body. This school doesn’t have a characteristic or it has too many characteristics to pinpoint one. </li>
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<p>Overall, the way you think is interesting in a sense that they are so mediocre.
I guess all you care about life is getting a job, getting married, having kids, going into finance to earn money. That’s all very important, but I guess that all you think in life.</p>

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<p>@william95 and seriously this has been fun. Where do you go school to? I guess there is a reason why people want to go to good school. They filter people. Although my opinion is that Cornell should filter more. This shows my affection for Cornell in a sense right? </p>

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<p>@PaintTheSilence Cornell is fine. I was dejected by the fact that I didn’t get into Wharton because I wanted to study their curriculum which is liberal arts + business. I want to do both. I could go to MBA but honestly… that is a whole different story, and I don’t want to explain here because people like @william95 may not understand and demand me explanations. Cornell is fine and it has a good engineering school. I heard they are amazing, and Bill Gates recently built a building for them for researches. And honestly, I don’t know about penn except Wharton. … </p>

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<p>@masqalree‌ </p>

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<li><p>I understand the differentiation but I’m still not sure why you’re bringing it up, I never said the essay wasn’t important or that GPA wasn’t important. Everything is important, my only point was that “everything” includes the ranking of your current institution. Yes usually explaining things does mean going word by word instead of making partial statements in broken English.</p></li>
<li><p>The point is that you’ll never know. The only people who can tell you are the admissions officers who were in the room discussing your application and, as you found out yourself, they will not be able to tell you. It might be helpful to know but you’ll never know so don’t worry about it. I’m sure your application was great and it was just a function of both a lack of unique quality or reason to transfer and a limited number of available spots in the transfer class.</p></li>
<li><p>I’m not sure what part of my comments has shown that but to each his own. I’m glad that we’re in agreement about its irrelevance. </p></li>
<li><p>Again you keep falling back on the phrase “people like you” which tells absolutely nothing. Maybe I don’t understand your “simple statements” because your written communication skills are very poor. I’m sorry you think I’m an indecent person based solely on my comments on an online forum, I guess you don’t use the same “holistic” process in your personal judgments that Penn uses in making its decisions :wink:
Trying to put down transfer students and yet I’m the one with “low self-esteem”, right. Don’t worry, I’m positive you won’t have to worry about hanging out with “people like me” because “people like me” wouldn’t waste time with someone so immature and insecure as to try and make themselves feel superior because of such petty things. AEM transfer admissions is just as competitive as freshman admissions, just a heads up.</p></li>
<li><p>I didn’t make the statement to be taken literally, I don’t expect you, personally, to characterize a school with 14,000+ undergrad students. Yes those are important aspects of life, however being concerned with them does not exclude other aspects.</p></li>
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<p>I’m transferring from Villanova to Cornell AEM. I’m sorry you feel as though Cornell needs a more stringent admissions policy, but hey, maybe you wouldn’t have gotten in if they did ;)</p>

<p>This is my last response to you as we’ve gotten terribly sidetracked from the actual purpose of the thread. Its been a pleasure. </p>

<p>@PaintTheSilence Sorry about that! Personally, I’d choose Penn over Cornell. Good luck with Harvard though!</p>

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<p>@william95 Good luck with Harvard though! Funny. You completely failed to understand what I am saying, and clinging onto sentences. Okay I am just gonna be an ass here.
I’d choose penn over Cornell: the point in which your self-esteem just couldn’t take the fact that you can’t comprehend what I am saying and yet you just wanted to retort back in some way. If you have time to critique my broken english, why don’t you fathom the fact that you don’t understand an idea which the language is mere tool to express. Good luck on using the tool when you have no idea what to use it for. </p>

<p>You didn’t read my post. If you had, or you have a brain capacity to do so, you wouldn’t have written this nonsense. </p>

<p>And not to mention, you are not even creative in your retorts. The format is the same, your retorts not only doesn’t make sense but also mundane. Like I said, mediocre, uninteresting. </p>

<p>I guess I have poor communication skills, but if having a good communication skills indicate having to converse with people like you, I may decide not to develop the skills. No im joking I am totally going to develop my communication skills so that I can recognize when I see one and mock it(yeah, it not he or her)</p>

<p>In retrospect, people like you just don’t get it.
Sorry, it’s rude to tell someone that they don’t have self-esteem without getting to know them properly. It’s a snob to judge someone based on one characteristic although based on the conversation that happened to start because of me being a snob actually showed me your lack of self-esteem, brain capacity, and a sense oneself in relation to the world, I guess my intuition isn’t useless. I guess I shouldn’t overuse it. This is so tacky, but even a worm will turn, they way. This is why we shouldn’t mess with …ah the adjectives that I would use but just for the sake of my integrity, I would mind my language. </p>

<p>And I hope that if you are ever going to respond to me, be creative and give me something interesting or just be good at arguing for the sake of it so that I don’t have anything to retort back to because they are so logical and smart. </p>

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<p>I still feel like I’m in a dream! I got my acceptance from Penn on Monday, and I got my acceptance from MIT today. </p>

<p>Can any past Penn transfers in this thread speak about their experience with having credits transfer? I’m worried about the possibility of having freshman standing if I transfer even though at the university I’m currently attending I’d be a junior next year. I’ve taken a full year of chemistry, physics, and biology as well as a significant number of math courses and upper level biology courses. My apprehension is mostly rooted in the fact the school I go to now is on the quarter system rather than the semester system, which surely won’t work in my favor. Also, what is Penn’s policy for core curriculum requirements for transfer students? Many schools do not require transfer students to complete as many core classes as other students, but I have not found anything about how Penn handles transfers in this regard.</p>

<p>Also, the student reply deadline is May 23, but I’m a little leery because I still have not received my financial aid offer yet, and I also have yet to receive my admissions decisions from Harvard, Yale, and Columbia. I just feel exceptionally rushed. </p>

<p>By the way, thanks in advance to anyone who can answer my questions!</p>

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<p>@william95 And are you kidding me, did you really think that transfers are going to be the same as those entered freshman? 2 more years at certain institutions shape your experience in a very big way. Otherwise why would there be a transfer committee to ease your adjustment. You don’t go to university to learn academics only, you also learn how to be a Cornellian, Princetonian, Harvardian, Brownian(I don’t even know if this word exists) whatever names are out there, and 2 years make a big difference on that. I’m not being condescending on you. I am merely pinpointing a fact and people like you just can’t take unpleasant facts without taking them personally.</p>

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<p>@william95 Thanks to you I just got promoted to junior member. This is so fun. </p>

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<p>@william95 On a second thought, I shouldn’t have attacked you about anything at all to begin with. It is wrong. Everyone has their own worth and if I deny that that means I don’t have a claim on mine. </p>

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<p>@william95 william who I assumed to be born on 1995, I shouldn’t have attacked you the self-esteem part. You are a human being and no one should be treated the way I treated you. </p>

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<p>@william95 I just realized how immature I behaved. </p>

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<p>@william95 but this was fun. I never did this to someone on the face. but now I realize why it’s wrong.
This is upenn transfer thread, so now I am going to shut. </p>

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<p>@wtransferstudent‌, your projected transfer credits as well as projected status (i.e. second semester freshman, first semester sophomore) should be on the same page as your decision. Look on the left and there should be a tab that is titled “Transfer Credits” or something similar.</p>

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<p>holy…
I’ve been lurking on this thread but caved to just enter my two cents.</p>

<p>I’m currently a Cornellian accepted into UPenn.
I’m glad this thing between @masqalree‌ and @william95 is finally dying down because as one of you guys said, personal bickering doesn’t really have a place in this thread.
I wanted to interject mainly because one student representing Cornell was bugging me, especially since there are possible Cornell transfers in this thread.</p>

<p>@PaintTheSilence‌- this is one of the worst ways to get an idea if Cornell is the right place for you.
It’s a huge school and everyone’s experience is different obviously. Talk to people you know at Cornell or email a Cornell ambassador with questions you may have. I don’t know how much help I can be but PM if you’re wondering something.
@william95- “you are a transfer. hardly will we ever be considered the same” – BS. we don’t look down on transfers. When you get here, you are a Cornellian. And I mean really, it’s just that no one cares. You’re here, suffering prelims with the rest of us.
@masqalree‌- I’m sorry you’re not particularly fond of Cornell. Like with anywhere, it can be a pretty sucky place to be. I sincerely hope you find next semester better and enjoy/enjoyed (depending on when you read this) Slope Day, at least.</p>

<p>Ultimately, as this is a transfers thread, and decisions have come out, it’s probably best that you two (@william95 and @masqalree‌) leave since there isn’t anything to gain from staying. There’s a Cornell transfer thread if you want to talk about how selective/unselective, great/terrible, etc. the Big Red can be.</p>

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<p>@throwaway223 you mind sharing some of your stats/courseload?</p>

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<p>did anyone receive their packages through mail?</p>

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<p>@throwaway223 Thank you for being nosy. Greatly appreciated here!</p>

<p>It is just hilarious how no one who happens to mention me on their posting doesn’t seem to have read my postings. Few years ago, I would have thought it was me being unclear, now I am convinced that it is some of you people being unable to digest harsh facts as facts and take them personally, or being stupid without even realizing. </p>

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<p>@masqalree‌- Dude, you’re on an open forum. How on earth is responding to something on this thread considered nosy?
I have read all your posts and I didn’t directly address anything in them except one sentence, and that wasn’t even to you. There is nothing that I interpreted for you to claim that whatever I said was wrong because you were “unclear.” literally said nothing about you except that a) I’m sorry you’re not content with your current school experience and b) leave this thread.</p>

<p>Ignoring the content of nearly every post you made here so you can’t say that I’m misunderstanding/attacking you, you are ultimately an unaccepted applicant in a transfer thread. Please leave because you aren’t helping the conversation for accepted students. If you want to request for essays or specs, just direct message the person.</p>

<p>Practice what you preach and “digest [these] hard facts as facts” and don’t take what I’m saying personally.
Or, if it makes you feel better, sure everyone else is being stupid without realizing it-- but sit on your high throne in silence, please.</p>