<p>As I said above. Are the universities good if you are going to study engineering? Which one is better? </p>
<p>The THES rankings puts Univ New South Wales at 19 for technology, but I am not too sure about its reliability, which is why I would like opinions from people who actually have some knowledge in the field.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>UNSW is of-course better...it is good n its top Australian uni in Engineering..</p>
<p>U sure UNSW is better than Leeds in Engineering across all Engineering Major?</p>
<p>Best in Australia? others might feel UofMelb is better. again sweeping statement.</p>
<p>I think I said that with assurance.....</p>
<p>n UNSW is indeed the best in engineering...otherwise ANU tops....</p>
<p>Okay ULeeds is one of the UK's worst universities. UNSW clearly trumps ULeeds for anything, and especially engineering. But this is not to say that UNSW is extremely good or anything. It is merely better tahn ULeeds.</p>
<p>Leeds one of the UK's worst? What are you thinking? You guys really only care about top 2 or 3, but in fact Leeds is terrific for whoever wants to go to the UK. It is not at the level of Cambridge or Oxford; the University of London colleges or the top Scottish ones, but it is somewhere along the level of Nottingham, Manchester, Newcastle and is a great city to live in.</p>
<p>Smash96, okay maybe ULeeds is not actually the UK's <em>worst</em>, but it's pretty close to it. Some schools (I'm thinking of Luton, Middlesex, Thames Valley) are very very crap, and ULeeds is not <em>that</em> bad. But To say that it's at the level of Nottingham is doing UNottingham a disservice. I would say that for UK schools there are 5 tiers:</p>
<p>First tier:
Oxford, Cambridge, LSE, Imperial</p>
<p>Second:
UCL, Warwick</p>
<p>Third:
Other UoL universities, Nottingham, Manchester, York, others...</p>
<p>Fourth:
ULeeds, and others</p>
<p>Fifth:
Thames Valley, Luton, Middlesex, and others</p>
<p>UNSW would clearly be a better choice.</p>
<p>Meh..I would have it something like:</p>
<p>First tier: Cambridge, Oxford
Higher Second tier: LSE, UCL, Imperial, Durham, Edinburgh
Lower Second tier: Bristol, Warwick, Manchester, Nottingham, UofL others (KCL, SOAS, Royal Holloway), Glasgow, St. Andrews, York
Third tier: Leeds, Newcastle upon Tyne
4th tier: Strathclyde and such</p>
<p>Then the others fifth - tenth</p>
<p>Durham and Edinburgh are not above Warwick and Bristol.</p>
<p>Corrected:</p>
<p>Top: Cambridge, Oxford
Second (equal with Oxbridge for many courses): LSE, Imperial
Third: Warwick, Bristol, UCL, Durham
Fourth: Manchester, Nottingham, UofL others (KCL, SOAS, Royal Holloway), Edinburgh, St. Andrews</p>
<p>etc.</p>
<p>I'd generally agree with the above, the general ranking I would say is:</p>
<p>Tier 1: Oxbridge
Tier 2: LSE, Imperial
Tier 3: UCL, Warwick, Bristol, Durham
Tier 4: Edinburgh, Nottingham, York, Kings, Bath
Tier 5: Manchester, St. Andrews, SOAS and a few more</p>
<p>If you where to come up with a strict top 10, I would say:</p>
<ol>
<li>Oxbridge </li>
<li>LSE / Imperial - pointless separating the two as they don't overlap in courses offered.</li>
<li>UCL</li>
<li>Warwick</li>
<li>Bristol</li>
<li>Durham</li>
<li>Edinburgh</li>
<li>Nottingham</li>
</ol>
<p>I'm not really sure what the above rankings have to do with engineering, as a number of the schools don't even offer anything remotely engineering related. </p>
<p>If we're talking general rankings, of which the explanatory power is minimal, the Sunday Times is generally considered to be the most accurate. They rank the top 120 universities in the United Kingdom and categorize the following as Tier 1: </p>
<p>Cambridge
Oxford
LSE
Imperial
UCL
Warwick
York
Durham
Bristol
St Andrews</p>
<p>If we want to break down the top tier, then perhaps, based on the stats, we could identify two sub-tiers:</p>
<p>Tier 1.1: Cambridge, Oxford, LSE, Imperial, UCL
Tier 1.2: Warwick, York, Durham, Bristol, St Andrews</p>
<p>In the end, general rankings don't mean much because they lack an account of departmental strengths and weaknesses. Disciple-specific rankings may be more useful.</p>
<p>I was referring to the perception of UK universities by top employers in the UK (investment banks, consultancy, law firms etc), not general rankings.</p>
<p>For example, York does well in rankings, but isn't for whatever reason as highly regarded by top employers in the UK unfortunately.</p>