<p>a 75 year old virgin-- awww how cute! Saving yourself for that one special girl? so sweet-- hahahaha that's hilarious. Totally made my day lol.</p>
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a 75 year old virgin-- awww how cute! Saving yourself for that one special girl? so sweet-- hahahaha that's hilarious. Totally made my day lol.
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What's so wrong with that? lol i'm serious! I hate promiscuous behavior. </p>
<p>And hyyaku, as I said, I dont' want to change myself for anyway, but I am forced to. If I dont' get girls by acting like a weirdo or pretend to be a jock or that cool guy, then forget it. I dont' give a damn. I'd rather want a girl that sees "through" me rather than judge me on my superficial behavior.</p>
<p>dood just chill, you're never gonna figure out women, nobody is, you just gotta be sociable, go out and eventually something'll happen.</p>
<p>mange merde, femmes hautains.</p>
<p>girls are so capricious and untrustworthy. i went out with this girl who never gave me any money, or flowers. all she did was talk about herself. i always try to talk about my intelligence and greatness, but this one kept trying to talk about modern culture like movies, school life, job. what the heck was that? relationships are supposed to be about talking about history. also in a relationship the man must be the centre. the girl must give him 200 dollars or so everytime he meets her because the greatness of men are holy and divine. so the girl must pay. if she doesn't, her time in the purgatory will be extended. the sons of adam must be glorified! </p>
<p>tous les femmes qui pensent que je suis idiot, vous avez un probleme majeur.</p>
<p>Lol****intastic @ This Thread</p>
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You know why alot of girls like the jocks and the *******s? Its not because they are jerks, its because they are genuine about what they want, there's no questions asked. Ask a girl if she's more wary of a shy guy thats always staring at her never saying anything, or some loud jock shoutin her out from his car? She KNOWS what the jock wants, she doesn't KNOW what you want, and people fear the unknown.
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<p>Y'know, I could never figure out why some girls like the dumb fratboy sort either, and that might just be an answer. Never thought of it that way. I stay as far away from them as possible, myself.</p>
<p>Look, if you're going to sit around and whine about wahh, girls aren't confusing, they never tell you exactly what they're thinking, wahh...start doing the same yourself please. If you are approaching some girl with the sole intent of dating her eventually, make that perfectly, unavoidably clear from the very beginning. Because I am very tired of meeting new guys, having them talk to me and generally be friendly, which leads me to talk and be friendly to them and think that I've made a new friend, accepting invitations to hang out with them outside of class because that's what friends do, and then having them try to corner me and kiss me, which results in me having to fight down the urge to run screaming into the night while kicking myself for being so stupid as to think someone would want to ever be friends with me, and them sitting around b*tching to their friends about how girls are sooo unclear about their intentions. Because of course there is nothing whatsoever vague about being asked if you want to hang out and watch movies on Friday night by someone who you've chatted with in class a couple times.</p>
<p>I'd really like not having to avoid ever speaking to anyone of the opposite gender, but that's pretty much what it seems like I have to resort to. Never actually knew guys were never never ever interested in a friendship with a female until I came across all the threads on this site full of guys b*tching about how their female friends don't want to date them.</p>
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Listen woman, if a guy wants to hang out with you outside of class, watch a movie, etc etc, then HOW THE HELL can you assume that he just wants friendship? Obviously he wants more than that, coz if he didn't, he wouldn't ask you to hang out with him in the first place. No offense btw</p>
<p>I feel sorry for that dude. You gave him the wrong signal that you liked him by agreeing to hang out with him.</p>
<p>And erm...we can't tell you from the beginning if we want to date you. Don't tell me you WOULDN'T be freaked out if some guy you've never met before suddenly approaches you and says, "babe, do you wanna go on a date"?</p>
<p>"Listen woman"</p>
<p>Ahahahhahaha</p>
<p>frasifrasi: My thoughts exactly.</p>
<p>MightyNick: So males never would never hang out with a girl as friends? Do you have no female friends whatsoever? That seems mighty peculiar to me... I have several male friends who are just friends. We hang out all the time-- play video games, go eat places, see movies, generally laze around-- and there is no assumption that we like each other. I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that when you're being asked to 'hang-out,' what you're gonna do is, well, hang-out!</p>
<p>This is the solution to this problem: If you are asking someone out with romantic intentions, be you male or female, just be clear and unambiguous. That way, the person knows what s/he is agreeing to. And if you're being asked out, don't play games with the other person's emotions. Just be honest about your feelings. Is that so hard?</p>
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MightyNick: So males never would never hang out with a girl as friends? Do you have no female friends whatsoever?
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<p>I do, but many of them are either i)ugly and i have no attraction to them whatsoever ii)okay looking but i'm not really romantically interested. They're most the former though :(</p>
<p>i also play video games with them.</p>
<p>hey man, what type of girls are you talking about? It doesn't make a difference, but I am just curious since you mentioned you are not after white girls.</p>
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<p>Heh, that could describe a bunch of my guy friends. You might want to reread your posts, because there's a bit of a double standard going on - it's not like girls automatically know which category (hot, ok, ugly) they fall into with every person they meet...and it's not like all girls particularly care, either. </p>
<p>Seriously, guys can be confusing with the whole hang-out v. date thing, to say the least.</p>
<p>Most guys will only become good friends with a girl they find attractive (even if they don't plan to try and go further with her).</p>
<p>I hate it when i see fat, not what girls would find hott guys dating or hanging out with very HOTT chicks.... ****es me off...i'm like wth? how does that work out? but then these guys are either very funny and make the girls laugh, or they're just straight up players. I dunno, I am neither and it sucks... I just try to get along with everyone and am not really a ladies guy....but oh well. So girls, what can reserved guys do to become friends and get something going with girls they have a crush on? It's not their fault they can't make the girls laugh. Does that mean they're out of luck and not get a chance to express their feelings for that one girl?</p>
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hey man, what type of girls are you talking about? It doesn't make a difference, but I am just curious since you mentioned you are not after white girls.
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<p>I'm talking about Indian or Middle Eastern girls (i'm indian but look Arab). White girls are attractive as long as you dont talk to them (I bet white guys think differently, and i accept that).</p>
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Heh, that could describe a bunch of my guy friends. You might want to reread your posts, because there's a bit of a double standard going on - it's not like girls automatically know which category (hot, ok, ugly) they fall into with every person they meet...and it's not like all girls particularly care, either. </p>
<p>Seriously, guys can be confusing with the whole hang-out v. date thing, to say the least.
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<p>Its so easy for them to find out. Its really simple. </p>
<p>If a guy calls you or facebook's you and asks if you wanna hang out over the weekend, watch a movie, etc then 99.98% of the time he probably finds you attractive.</p>
<p>On the other hand, if you meet this guy in class, or by chance and you decide to hang out and then the guy never asks you to hang with him again, then either i) he doesn't like you because you're not attractive or have a crappy personality (usually its the former), or ii) he's really really shy and introverted.</p>
<p>thecalccobra....</p>
<p>I agree with you.</p>
<p>As for the question you asked, I can already tell you the girls will say, "well, make an effort to talk to her blah blah blah" or "just get out of your shell and be more extroverted." That is crap and it is easier said than done. </p>
<p>So many times I've met girls who NEVER make the effort to talk to you. Rather, they expect the guy to start the conversation. I'm freakin sick and tired of that. Nonetheless, I try not to get annoyed and make the first convo anyway. </p>
<p>Take this example....First day of class. First day of Spring semester. I go to class and see this decent looking girl. I talk to her the first day. The second day. The third day. I'm always making the convos. She gives me that "you are a jerk look"...and seriously i'm not even acting like a weirdo. I gave up talking with her now. </p>
<p>And then yesterday I go to class, and she says, "Nick, how come you're so quiet now? you don't even talk to me". </p>
<p>***???</p>
<p>Figured I'd be told off for that. Too bad "listen, man" isn't an insult. Maybe I could go with "listen, jack**s" instead?</p>
<p>If I've talked to someone in class and online a few times, and I end up getting invited to hang out and watch movies or go grab a slice of pizza, why on earth would I think that that indicates that the person has romantic feelings for me? I'm not presumptuous enough to assume that every person that speaks to me does so because they've fallen in love with me at first sight...that's ridiculous. If it were a girl doing it, should I assume she's a lesbian and thinks I'm one too? If you talk to me frequently, I go with the most logical assumption, which is that you find me an interesting conversationalist, or funny, or something along those lines. There are no mixed signals involved in that. It is not my fault that you cannot be straightforward about your intentions. If someone explicitly asked me on a date, at least I would be fully aware of what I was agreeing or not agreeing to.</p>
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Figured I'd be told off for that. Too bad "listen, man" isn't an insult. Maybe I could go with "listen, jack**s" instead?</p>
<p>If I've talked to someone in class and online a few times, and I end up getting invited to hang out and watch movies or go grab a slice of pizza, why on earth would I think that that indicates that the person has romantic feelings for me? I'm not presumptuous enough to assume that every person that speaks to me does so because they've fallen in love with me at first sight...that's ridiculous. If it were a girl doing it, should I assume she's a lesbian and thinks I'm one too? If you talk to me frequently, I go with the most logical assumption, which is that you find me an interesting conversationalist, or funny, or something along those lines. There are no mixed signals involved in that. It is not my fault that you cannot be straightforward about your intentions. If someone explicitly asked me on a date, at least I would be fully aware of what I was agreeing or not agreeing to.
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<p>Hahah i didn't mean to say "listen woman" in an insulting way. sorry. anways...</p>
<p>whatever you said clearly indicates that a guy likes you...."hanging out, watch a movie, grab a slice of pizza"...i would NEVER do that with a girl unless i found her attractive and wanted to be her bf...or give myself a chance of being her boyfriend in the future. I think many guys would agree with me here.</p>
<p>It can't get any clearer than that, babe.</p>
<p>And again, I realize that now, and the only way I figured it out was by finding this site and coming across threads full of college guys complaining about how some girl doesn't like them back and it should be so obvious that they like the girl because, I mean, they talk to her in class! They talk to her outside of class, sometimes, even! There are absolutely no indications whatsoever in that sort of casual, friends-like behavior that would indicate to someone that you like them. Do you honestly not realize that?</p>
<p>And based on all this, would you then say that it's a fair assessment that if I'm not looking for a boyfriend I should avoid any and all males that show the slightest interest in even thinking about speaking to me, ever? For instance, there's a guy in one of my classes now that I knew from freshman year, and sometimes I end up sitting next to him (he's the only person I know in the class and vice versa) and sometimes we end up walking home together because he lives near me and we both go that way anyway. I should absolutely stop sitting next to him in class, talking to him in class, acknowledging the fact that he is even in the class, and above all walking home with him (even if it means I either have to sprint out the door or hide in the bathroom for 15 minutes to make sure he doesn't wait for me)....right? Gotta assume that the one and only reason he speaks to me for any reason is because he likes me, right?</p>