<p>^^ i second that :)</p>
<p>"We have no problem pressuring guys to pay, or making it an expectation. So, should we apply this social pressure to girls? In fact, often we tell girls not to give it up until they feel comfortable. It is in the girl's judgment. I don't want to count up what people give and take in a date, but I think it necessarily comes up when we talk about expectations.</p>
<p>Also, I'm guessing then that girls don't like sex as much as guys?"</p>
<p>I don't think many people, male or female, would pass up free food AND sex after a date. Most people would be like, "Hell yeah!"</p>
<p>well nyu, it depends whether or not the girl/guy is crazy. wait nevermind crazy girls give you the best sex.</p>
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Just because a guy pays for dinner doesn't mean girls are automatically congratulating themselves for weaseling a whole fifteen dollars and a to-go container out of him.
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^^hahahah amen.</p>
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wait nevermind crazy girls give you the best sex.
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you mean, "crazy girls give you the best one-night stand."</p>
<p>you mean, "crazy girls give you the best one-night stand."
Crazy girls don't just let it be one night. Next thing you know, they are stalking you. I don't see what's so hard about realizing that it was a one time deal. Maybe I just think like a guy?</p>
<p>Hmmm I don't know, I've heard about a few guys becoming crazy stalkers after a hookup. I really don't think most people can have a lot of no-strings-attached sex without it messing with their psyche. Eventually you'll just be like, "Why don't girls/guys stick around with me longer than a few hours? Am I that bad?",etc.</p>
<p>CAMBRIDGE - After Anna Tang and her boyfriend broke up three weeks ago, prosecutors say, the Wellesley College junior began sending him e-mails telling him she would kill him.</p>
<p>Yesterday, police said, she almost succeeded.</p>
<p>At about 6:30 a.m., Tang sneaked into his dorm room at MIT, climbed on top of him as he slept, and plunged a knife into his back, Assistant District Attorney Suzanne Kontz said in Cambridge District Court yesterday, where Tang was arraigned.</p>
<p>The man woke, turned around, and tried to fight her off, but Tang kept stabbing him. At one point, she lost her grip on the knife and reached for another she had brought with her, Kontz said. Tang was armed with three knives, the prosecutor said.</p>
<p>The 19-year-old MIT student, who was not identified, is in serious condition at a local hospital, and Tang, who prosecutors said stabbed him seven times, was held without bail until next Tuesday, when she will return to court for a dangerousness hearing. Tang, a slight woman who wore blue hospital scrubs in court, was charged with armed assault with intent to murder and home invasion. A not-guilty plea was entered on her behalf.</p>
<p>Wellesley</a> College student stabs ex-boyfriend, prosecutor says - The Boston Globe</p>
<p>^thats why you give crazy girls a fake phone number. That way you can hook up with her without her stalking you and just hope you never see her again</p>
<p>NOT GUILTY PLEA!?!?!? *** how the **** did they think they'd weasel out of that one?</p>
<p>i'd think they'd try 'she's crazy and does not know what the hell she was doing at the time' card lol</p>
<p>"i just do not see anything wrong with a guy paying for a date. if you asked me to go then you will be expected to pay. if it was up to me i would have just stayed home. in my family the men are the ones who usually pay for the meals and open the doors and when in a relationship that is the type of person i would be looking for. i am not sure if that is gold digging though..."</p>
<p>Not a gold digger but definitely selfish. But then again most women are selfish and only look out for themselves in general. What happened to the concept of give and take? Shouldn't relationships be 50/50 or 100/100 or should the precedent that they guy will be the greater giver start from date one. The beginning of the relationship sets a precedent.</p>
<p>The only place where girls might ask out guys and pay is Northern Europe and possibly NYC/LA so asker pays doesn't apply. If dutch was the precedent more people would ask and date and be more likely to find true love.</p>
<p>Refer to this (all the guys)</p>
<p>PFFFFT. I think saying "most women are selfish" is a bit strong. Most women don't force a man to pay. It was a tradition, and it isn't completely dead yet. Women don't have any control over how fast culture changes, and it certainly wasn't our fault that once upon a time, men were the only ones with jobs and therefore HAD to pay. </p>
<p>Seeing as we're in the 21st century, I don't think there is any reason to think less of a guy if he doesn't pay. Guess what- women can now have jobs too! Hurray! That means we can pay for our own food! A guy can still be a gentleman without spending his entire paycheck on me- that's not fair to him. I care about the guys that I date, I want to treat them fairly.</p>
<p>Notes:</p>
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<li><p>Super expensive restaurants are an exception. If someone of ANY gender takes his/her date to an expensive restaurant without letting the date voice his/her opinion, then the person that chose the restaurant should be willing to pay. The date might not be able to afford it- I know I wouldn't want to spend 50$ on a meal just for a first date!</p></li>
<li><p>Opening doors are nice, no matter what gender does it. It's polite.</p></li>
<li><p>"Most women are selfish" is only true if you're also in the camp that says "most people are selfish," and I can see the latter being true, which makes the former true as well.</p></li>
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<p>Finally, a non-naive post about this subject from a female.</p>
<p>brillar Most people are selfish. But there's more non selfish men than non selfish women.</p>
<p>college that is because there are more men in the world.</p>
<p>97 men per 100 women in the U.S.</p>
<p>no youre wrong. 0.97 males to females in the USA</p>
<p>I think men and women are probably about equally selfish. I just find that men tend to be less obvious about, less self-deceptive on, and more frank about how selfish they are.</p>
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no youre wrong. 0.97 males to females in the USA
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good try .
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<p>I'm going to agree with Easy- men and women are equally selfish. I think most people have some degree of selfishness- if we didn't sometimes serve our own interests, the human race wouldn't have survived. There is NOTHING about having a vagina that would make you more selfish.</p>