Haas Transfers 2007 *STATS*

<p>My <em>Most likely to be accepted by haas</em> vote
socalgal20</p>

<p>post yours</p>

<p>question:
haas breadth and prereqs already include igetc right?</p>

<p>They are similar, but haas breadth/prereq's don't include a science lab requirement, some other differences as well I think (don't remember off the top of my head).</p>

<p>As for most likely to be accepted, I think socalgal and sweet are both in for sure (provided good essays). That is, as sure as you can get with Haas, heh.</p>

<p>Ana Rafferty (Berkeley's outreach employee at Claremont) says you do not need to finish the prereqs by the time of application. BUT, she also said that having most of them done by the time of applications would be helpful. If you were Calculus by the time of applications, they would look at your Pre-Calculus grade. As a rule of thumb I would only leave 1 prereq left to finish in the Spring of '07.</p>

<p>My stats:
Currently attending: Pasadena City College
GPA:4.0
EC: 2W Intl. Mfr. marketing/computer technician, Merril Lynch stock analyst internship, Faqqly start up company internship (I'm looking to begin marketing operations in Pasadena), Congressional Gold Certificate Award, Student Council Assistant Advisor (I do motivational speaking/seminar workshops)
Pre reqs: All done except for Calculus
Breadth: 8 out of 9 completed by Spring
IGETC: Not finished</p>

<p>I will only finish the requirements for USC and Berkeley. Finishing requirements for Bus at Riverside, Bus-Econ at UCLA, and IGETC is just too much. I started PCC in fall of 2005.</p>

<p>Finishing requirements for Bus at Riverside, Bus-Econ at UCLA, and IGETC is just too much.</p>

<p>???</p>

<p>Unless Pasadena offers ECON 11 and/or 41, UCLA BusEcon requirements overlap with Haas. IGETC is also very similar to Haas breadth, although I wouldn't blame you for not taking the extra couple classes to get certified if you're not going for any other UC's.</p>

<p>John has great stats. How did you score the ML internship? That will look great.</p>

<p>his parents probably know a contact... cause a big name like that most likely doesnt intern community college students on their own.</p>

<p>ok nvm john is my most likely to be accepted by haas vote</p>

<p>Curious... are my chances better or worse transferring into Haas from another UC v. a CCC?</p>

<p>Much worse, sorry to say :/</p>

<p>that's actually untrue, johnnzen. if you were in calculus by the time of applications and you had completed calculus by the fall semester, they will take your calculus grade into account. I'm not sure if thats what you meant by time of applications, or if we're chronologically on separate pages, but that's verified truth.</p>

<p>Ergh, just to clear this up (although i'm 99.9% sure I know the answer) finishing pre-req's in the fall semester counts as having them "finished by time of application", correct? Haas doesn't ask you to report your classes until January (spring semester). So fall semester courses are considered, right?</p>

<p>Also, as ze is saying, many many Haas counselors stress having your prereq's 100% done, as they are the weighted portion of your GPA. The ones I've spoken with also suggest 9/9 breadth's. Not having them done hurts, no matter who is telling you otherwise. If you hear differently from someone at Haas, let us know.</p>

<p>Ack, sorry. I wrote that in a rush, I just noticed that nasty grammar error in my previous post too. What I meant is, if i'm in Pre-Calculus right now Fall '06, and the applications month is November '06, then they won't be able to see my grades for a period of time until I send in my fall progress report. The last prereq I am missing is Calculus, which I will be taking in Spring '07. Because I will be missing the grade for Calc for a period of time, an emphasis will be placed on Pre-Cal so I hear. </p>

<p>Here is the transcript of the conversation with Ana Rafferty:
Hi.
I called you a week ago wondering about the grades the admissions office will last see -- from that call I decided to shift my classes so that I will complete most my prerequisites earlier, and my breadth later. </p>

<p>If Nov. 30 is Berkeley's admission deadline, what are the last grades that they will see and emphasize their decision on? </p>

<p>FYI, my Fall '06 semester ends on 12/16/2006, which is after the application is due and my winter ends 2/15/07 </p>

<p>-John</p>

<p>Response:
Hi John,</p>

<p>When you apply for Fall, 2007, you will self report all academic information including what you are currently taking (Fall, 2006) and what you plan to take (Winter,Spring, 2007). In January we will request your Fall grades and a verification of Spring course work. The admission decision will therefore be based on your grades through the Fall, 2006 and planned courses through the Winter/Spring.</p>

<p>Ana</p>

<p>However, her e-mail response didn't answer what I was looking for: Which grade would be emphasized, would it be the Pre-Calc class taken pre-application period or the Calc class taken post-application. After calling her, she told me they would at first look at the Pre-Calc class, then continuing to say that I really need to get an A in that class. </p>

<p>As for the ML internship, don't be afraid of contacting them for one. Each branch has a slew of financial advisors who are constantly looking to expand their client base. Because of that, they are looking for grunts to do marketing for them. This isn't just limited to Merrill Lynch, Schwab also does it. It really doesn't hurt to drop by these finance-related firms and ask for an unpaid internship. </p>

<p>To qualify for IGETC/Bus programs at other schools, I would need to take courses such as accounting I/II for UCR, Calc II for UCLA Bus-Econ, sciences with lab for IGETC, and other misc. classes. </p>

<p>I've taken a very risky gamble when I plotted out my courses for 2 years at PCC. I have focused on the requirements that USC and UCB require only. I figure the less courses I take, the higher GPA I will have. Also I know my weakpoints, which is math. To compensate, I take the max credit load (and more) during summer and winter sessions so that I may take a reduced course load come Spring and Fall sessions. </p>

<p>The worst case scenario: I drop from my current 4.0, get a B in Pre-Cal (in progress), get a B in Calc, and get rejected from UCB. I would then consider staying at PCC for another year to qualify for UCLA, UCR, etc. Even if I did get into USC, I might withdraw since it's so expensive.</p>

<p>Oh man, I think i'm going to add another breadth course then, thanks Wilderr.</p>

<p>Thanks for that info John, that's exactly what I was thinking (Fall grade verification). I've been very tempted to do the same as you (leave Calc off till spring, so I could put it IP) because I'm almost 100% sure I can't get an A. My math is weak as well.</p>

<p>Your stats are gread though, and thanks for the heads up on ML, maybe I'll drop by.</p>

<p>Damn my B in a class I didn't even need <em>shakes fist</em> :[.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.congressionalaward.org/congress/?CFID=690401&CFTOKEN=53749155%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.congressionalaward.org/congress/?CFID=690401&CFTOKEN=53749155&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>That's the congressional award incase anyone wants to add more extracurric.'s. The gold certificate is pretty easy to get once you get the community service hours rolling. There are many other categories you can also get a gold certificate in.</p>

<p>Do you really have to wait 2 years to get the gold medal, or do you have to do 400 hours? Heh :P</p>

<p>Same question applies for the cert. 180 hours isn't 6 months of volunteer work. But I assume they won't let you get it before 6...</p>

<p>John, thank you for your posts! I think you restated what most of us knew already which is that they will take into consideration our grades from fall. With your ec's you may be in a better position to take Calc in spring but I would have to advise against it for most potential Haas transfers. I was given the impression by Haas faculty that Calc is one of the most important grades they need to see. Also Z, to follow up on our conversation about repeating courses. I am pretty sure if it is only one class that you tanked (and later received an A) they will overlook it as a fluke.</p>

<p>Heh, didn't notice the Congressional Award listed. I was going to try for that with a few friends, but they just weren't up for it... ended up with me not continuing either.</p>

<p>There are certain minimum timespans for each award... I was under the impression that two years was the minimum to be a medalist (i.e. less time for certificates), but I could be wrong.</p>

<p>i'm hungry.</p>

<p>Me too :( (10 blah)</p>