<p>Does anyone have concrete information on how the Ivies and other elites plan to treat the Writing section on the new SAT II. MIT and Georgetown had previously said that at least for 06 they will ignore it. There have been anecdotal reports that several Ivies are treating it merely as an SAT II. What have you heard? Please provide links where there is information on a website.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>i hope dey treat it equal as math and verbal</p>
<p>I know Penn is running on a 2400 scale; Duke still consideres it slightly inferior.</p>
<p>how do you know about Penn and Duke?</p>
<p>I went to an information session in my city. Harvard and Georgetown were there as well.</p>
<p>soemone else who went to the harvard, penn, georgetown, duke joint info session reported they all were treating Writing as an SAT II. Interesting</p>
<p>y the hell is the the writing section here if it's not gonna be weighted the same as math and verbal?...i hate collegeboard</p>
<p>We went to an info session at Columbia and the admissions guy said that they're pretty much ignoring it for next year's applicants</p>
<p>Does anyone know about this for UW-Seattle and UIUC? Are they ignoring the writing section for 07 applicants?</p>
<p>whylion, are you sure columbia ignore writing part for next year's applicants, because writing is currently my worst section(staying at 700 without tendency to increase very much in the june's test) while the other two sections are pretty good, reading 800 and math 740(very confident i will get 800 next time)
i dont really want to work on grammar right now.......hopefully most elites ignore it....</p>
<p>darkrulerII said that Duke considers the writing part inferior, but I went to that same conference and I got the impression that they just treated it as they had always treated the writing SAT II test. Oh, well.</p>
<p>1) Some schools (such as Dartmouth) will average CR and W to make up half of your SAT index--thus, each is worth 1/4, and the Math is worth half.
2) Other schools are treating it as the Writing SAT 2, as several of you have noted. They are not firming up their policies in stone until a year or two from now, and the reason is a good one....not enough data yet to ensure validity. Though they do get to read your essay if they care.
3) However, the U. Cal. system and a few others are making all three sections count equally for your 2400 index. In a sense, this is the same as 2), since they always counted GPA as up to 4000 pts, CR/Math as 1600 in the old days, and Writing/Math/some other SAT-II as 2400.</p>
<p>here's an excerpt & reference for how Williams looked at Writing for this past year (basically #2 in montrose's post above, as an SAT II):</p>
<p>"The College Board did extensive testing to ensure that scores for the new SAT are comparable to old SAT scores, but Dick Nesbitt, director of admission, said that it is too early to tell if the scores are truly equivalent. This year the College allowed students to submit scores from the old SAT. They evaluated the new writing portion of the test in a similar way to how they used to evaluate the SAT II: Writing test. We tried to give students the benefit of the doubt, Nesbitt said."</p>
<p>reference: <a href="http://www.williamsrecord.com/wr/?view=article§ion=news&id=7809%5B/url%5D">http://www.williamsrecord.com/wr/?view=article§ion=news&id=7809</a></p>
<p>As to the question above about what UIUC does with the writing: for the time being and including next year, it is gathering scores but is not using the writing section for admission. It wants to have at least a few years of results and thus accumulated data to tell it what are the usual scores of admitted freshman and for those who survive (and don't survive) freshman year before deciding whether or how it will be used for admission. Many colleges, including Georgetown are doing the same. Though others are using the score, majority are still looking at it as secondary or as mentioned above as something akin to an SAT II, and they are doing so for the same reason -- they want to wait for more accumulated data before putting any significant reliance on it.</p>
<p>We visited around 10 very/highly selective colleges this yr and not one said they will be using the writing section. They all discussed CR & Math SAT ranges, using the 1600 scale. Some said there wasn't enough experience with writing. Others said have seen writing in the same range as CR but even when it differed, they weren't sure what to make of the difference (too early to tell).</p>
<p>hmm...well...if you can get a 2400...still go for it though
but disregard the writing section and go for a 1800(800CR, 800Math, 200writing)..</p>
<p>So a 760 writing won't hurt me anywhere?</p>
<p>haha - that's a cc joke, right?</p>
<p>regugitating cow (yuk!)
That's what the Columbia admissions guy said when we were at the tour in April.</p>
<p>760 writing won't hurt? Thats a great score! Why wouldit ever hurt you?</p>