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We don’t have all the information that the admissions people do, so we’re in no position to judge their decision as wrong or right.</p>
<p>You clearly deserved a spot~</p>
<p>People are delusional, lolz, no one deserves anything, sorry~</p>
<p>Evidently there isn’t an “official” set of stats that compares IS admits to OOS admits?</p>
<p>Of course not, it would highlight the extreme differences. Just like a breakdown by county would highlight how northern va admits’ stats are better than rural. the closest thing they release is [IAS</a> Historical Data: First-Time First-Year Applicants by Residency](<a href=“http://www.web.virginia.edu/IAAS/data_catalog/institutional/historical/admission/first_by_residency.htm]IAS”>http://www.web.virginia.edu/IAAS/data_catalog/institutional/historical/admission/first_by_residency.htm)</p>
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<p>The kids I know who were accepted to UVA, this year, had 2300+, 700+ on subject tests, and over 4.0s. And I know 4 of them.</p>
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<p>The admission process is perplexing and none of us really undestand it but it is more about them than you. From the research I have done, scores and standing do NOT guarantee anything. I have written before on CC that these admission committees are BUILDING A CLASS and need many different types of people. A tuba player, athletes, certain no of students to fill up each major, different personalities (can you imagine only the very top students getting a spot a UVA_likely to be a very unbalanced class) So they are trying to build to their needs and those needs differ at any given college or time. Go to *****.com and look at some of the videos by the admissions comittee panel they have. The Director from Pinceton gave an example: At Princeton one year they were short of brass players for their orchestra/band and asked the ad coms to find them folks to fill those spots.</p>
<p>Also, as proof this process is hard to comprehend, my neice was rejected ED from Vanderbilt but has since been accepted to Northwestern, Wake Forest and Boston College thus far. She was waitlisted at UVA, Tulane and Bucknell. Rejected by UNC. Still awaiting some other top schools. She was in the top 3% of her class in the Northeast with great recs and heavy AP coursework but wants a Bio major pre-med (from what I hear they then judge you against all others who are applying as bio pre-med) Also choosing undecided puts you in a more competitive pool. Geographic region too. So many factors at play. Don’t worrry and move on. You will fit into another college’s incoming class based on their needs. Take it as a chance to navigate disappointment-a very useful skill in life.</p>
<p>I’ll just throw my two cents in at this point. My D did not get in as an in state student. She had 3.7 at a very difficult high school with many AP’s…she had 2050 SAT.She was Class President and went to Virginia Governor’s School for Math, Science & Technology where she was a leader in many ways ( led groups and won awards at the end) . The Director of Gov school wrote her an additional letter of Rec. Also she was a Virginia Girl’s state delegate. We are very disappointed. There are other kids she knows who got in with lesser stats and No Gov school. I hate to say it but it sort of seems like a crapshoot. Where is the loyalty Virginia?</p>
<p>lddddl27 - Wow - that is ineteresting. So sorry - UVA is a great value and it is a shame if a top student like your D that is also instate can not get in. Geez!</p>
<p>Is that 3.7 weighted or no? </p>
<p>Also - what area of VA are you located? Is it NOVA?</p>
<p>Yes…NOVA. School does not rank and school does not weight. The only thing I can think of is that some of the top kids in the class who got in used UVA as a safety but will probably end up at Yale or Harvard. UVA was my D’s first choice.</p>
<p>Sorry but a 3.7 weighted is not high at all and unweighted is not even that high. There are other fine schools in Virginia, I’m sure you’ll find loyalty there~</p>
<p>I have a lot of sympathy for the OP, and any student that feels the pang of being declined admission, but less sympathy for the attitudes expressed. Stupefy says that UVA has a 25% acceptance rate and they have applied to schools with <10% acceptance. If your have 22K applicants and an incoming class of 3.2K (~15%). I think that is about right (from our acceptance letter) but I am happy to be corrected on this. Consider that probably more than 50% are IS applicants with an acceptance rate twice that of OOS, that would give you an incredibly selective number for OOS students.</p>
<p>I totally wish you well, and am sure you will have some wonderful choices, but UVA is not a safety for any OOS student.</p>
<p>@Idddl27 - My son has somewhat better stats, though not markedly so, and I considered him borderline for UVA as an in state student, and would not have been shocked at a rejection. I am not diminishing your Ds record, quite the contrary, just saying it is a very selective process and one never knows how the apps look other than the numbers. I hope the other options turn out better.</p>
<p>Stupefy: My kid who did get into UVA engineering as a Rodman Scholar and was admitted at RPI, Case Western and Bucknell with very generous financial scholarships at these three schools, was wait listed at Washington U. Denied at MIT which was not a surprise and is now waiting on two Ivies and Duke. Duke is his #1 choice but we will see what happens. And yes, we felt the way you are feeling now…was the wait-list at Wash U. a foreshadowing of many wait-lists and rejections to come? Denied at MIT did not bother us as much because we knew all along it was a reach.<br>
Stay positive! Your accomplishments are great and you will get in to a school that will be as happy to have you as you will be to go there.</p>
<p>@Nigiri- dean j explicitly posted on her blog that the OOS acceptance rate this year was 24% for the class of 2014. you’re using the CLASS SIZE to calculate the rate, as opposed to the number of OFFERS. UVA has far from 100% yield…</p>
<p>@ Stupefy…</p>
<p>That is a disappointment. You need to know that UVA considers race as a “Most Important” criteria. You can check it out, it’s right there on their criteria list printed in African American and White. (sorry, couldn’t resist…lighten up everyone). </p>
<p>Why that would be as important as rigor of schedule is insane, and totally unethical. You’ll be happier at a better school with higher morals. So much for the hypocrisy of UVA’s “Honor” system, when they display so little of it them-self.</p>
<p>@stupefy, ok, corrected…24%. Accept 24% and consider if the OOS rate was half that of IS, and there were equal numbers of apps. That would put OOS at 12% and IS at 36%. Twelve percent would be extremely competitive, and should not be regarded as a safety for an OOS.</p>
<p>Now, the numbers may be a bit off. For example, I know that historically for W&M, 60% of apps are OOS, yet 60% of freshman are IS, making the matters comparatively more difficult for OOS students. You get the point. OOS at the selective VA schools is going to be capricious and have some of the unpredictability that we have all come to expect from some of the high ranking privates. Not a safety school for very many students.</p>
<p>@jumpseat, what are you talking about?</p>
<p>@Nigiri, once again your stats are WAY off. 24% is for OOS applicants ONLY</p>
<p>straight off of DJ’s blog</p>
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<p>do you understand now?</p>
<p>maybe you didn’t show enough passion in your essays, and maybe they didn’t really like you (no offense. i think you’re a great person, really, haha. your stats are amazing). but those admissions officers are human, you know.</p>
<p>@Nigiri</p>
<p>This is “what I’m talking about”. That UVA holds your race as a ‘very important’ criteria in determining admissions. What a farce. </p>
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