I have no balls at all

<p>So there's this girl in my orgo class of 500 people, and I see her in open discussion, the library, class, etc...</p>

<p>and a week ago, I was at a computer really close to her in the library, but never had the guts to start talking to her. We were even working on the same project, etc...</p>

<p>and then a week later, I see her again in the library, and this time, I still do nothing. She eventually leaves and I'm back to square one.</p>

<p>idk, i'm just really disappointed. She seems kinda shy like me...and I tend to like quiet, smart girls, which is who she appears to be...so i wish i could at least have the balls to talk to her and get to know her...but wow, I had two really good chances and I wasted them because I simply have no balls...</p>

<p>ok, i'm just ranting now...but can someone help? i just don't feel comfortable going up to her, not even knowing her name, etc...and also in the library...which seems awkward, but i know i'm just making excuses</p>

<p>it's just really disappointing...i go to a big school and the semester is over in a month...so i really hope i'll see her again</p>

<p>I'm a girl and I have the same problem (with a guy :) ) He's in one of the activites I'm in (band), rides the same bus I do, and even lives in the same dorm. I don't know how to approach him though.....I'd like some advice too :)</p>

<p>ps. For you, if you see her again, try sitting by her and saying something like, do you know where I can find (some kind of book?) or something about the library or college or whatever......just strike up a conversation somehow... :) But like I said I have the same problem so....yeah</p>

<p>Try this:
"Hi, how are you?"</p>

<p>simple and effective</p>

<p>how about "Are you in my chem class?" When she says yes start talking about chem. Ask her for help about a chem problem. Maybe you might feel more comfortable just talking about chem with her. And then hopefully you guys can move on from there. hope this helps :)</p>

<p>I agree with Sakura812. Start out with the one thing you both definitely have in common (Chem class). It'll seem completely innocent to her... as if you sincerely need her help or advice. Then you can get a slight idea of what's she's like. After that, you may feel better about telling her how you feel. Who knows, she may feel the same way about you! You'll never know if you don't take the initiative to find out! Good luck!</p>

<p>cherrybarry, are you going to spend the rest of your college career like this? Think about your past rejections (if any). You can barely remember it let alone care about it since it happened so long ago, right? This is no different. Think of it that way. I've been rejected countless times but I have always not cared about it a while after it happened (as in a few days usually).</p>

<p>Then again, I know how it is always wanting to be curteous and respectful to people as an instinct. So you always wonder whether it's not a good time to talk to her. Sometimes it's just better to meet women at places where they want to meet people such as interest groups or at a social event.</p>

<p>Eye contact. Smile. "Hey, what's up?" Talk about chem. Introduce yourself.</p>

<p>Can I buy you a cup of coffee?</p>

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but can someone help? i just don't feel comfortable going up to her, not even knowing her name, etc...and also in the library...which seems awkward, but i know i'm just making excuses. it's just really disappointing...i go to a big school and the semester is over in a month.

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You're right about the last sentence; at a big school once class is over that may be it. And don't lose sight that college is a lot easier place to meet people than adult life. In a bar you've got what, an hour or two, to get a number or you'll never see them again.</p>

<p>But to get back to your main issue, I don't think its just one issue, its several. Lets call it confidence and expectations. For one thing, you've built up this whole mountain where you have to approach her and be witty and charming, and have her laughing and brushing your arm and sitting around later with her friends gushing about this guy she met, her camping by the phone in case you call. And so on. Relax!! It isn't about that. The first conversation is just small talk. It means little. </p>

<p>You're taking science classes, so you'll probably appreciate this numerical approach. To end up marrying one girl you'll probably date a few for 1/2 a year or more and then break it off. To date a few for 6+ months will require other relationships that go maybe 3-4 months before you break up. To get those require ones that go maybe 2 months and then you go separate ways. To get those require ones that go 5-10 dates. To get those requires some 3-5 date meeting, and each of those requires those 1-2 date things where things don't work out. And to actually land a date requires attempts at meeting, most of which won't lead anywhere.</p>

<p>So do the math. Its going to take a lot of rejections for that first date to get the ones that get off the ground, but that shouldn't make you desperate -- it should take the pressure off. You can't tell which it is up front. I'd be kinda scared, personally, if I had a 10 minute 1st meeting with a girl and then all of a sudden she was calling at all hours and acting totally hooked. Relationships take time to develop.</p>

<p>Ok, enough rambling. How does this tie into the girl in o-chem? It ties it because you've made too much out of meeting her, acting as if its your one chance to meet a girl and setting up difficult expectations. Turn it down a few notches. Its a chance to get to know a girl in your class who at first glance you find interesting but whom you know nothing, I repeat nothing. Given the numbers outlined above, odds are she's just one of many, many girls you'll talk to on the way to the altar.</p>

<p>So just talk to her. She's not from mars, she's a student just like you. She has the same concerns about making friends, getting good grades, picking a career, and so on that you have. Nobody can hand you a script of lines guaranteed to work; you just need an overall approach of friendliness and confidence. You're a person, she's a person, talk a bit and see what you might have in common. Maybe she's interested, maybe she has a crush on some other guy in her dorm and she's not interested right now, maybe you're just not her type. You'll never know if you don't try, and if you try and are rejected its just all part of the game.</p>

<p>There are numerous books and articles about social skills. One link, for example, is <a href="http://tinyurl.com/alaze%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://tinyurl.com/alaze&lt;/a> There are many books that can help, and you should also consider talking to a counselor at your school. College is a time for transitions, and not all of them are academic. Many kids enter not that skilled at social situations such as dating. Waiting for magic to strike is not a good approach; you're not going to wake up one morning magically confident and with girls lining up to talk to you. So if you want things to change you have to take steps to make it happen. Books can tell you some things, and many colleges also have workshops thru the counseling center for students who want to learn better skills.</p>

<p>That was a phenomenal post. Well done. Might take a look at the link myself. Could always make use of other perspectives on the situation. ;)</p>

<p>But I think it really is about removing the initial pressure so that you can talk to her by being the real you and not the 'trying to impress her' you. He's right. You're going to get rejected a lot. I have. Don't think you're a loser if you keep getting rejected. Even guys who are successful with girls now have had to deal with tons of rejections beforehand. So it's going to take time. Good luck!</p>

<p>haha i was in the exact same situation last year, and now that girl is dating some other guy.</p>

<p>oh well, good thing is i'm still in high school, theres ought to be more out there for me.</p>

<p>500 people in an orgo class??? Wow (mine has 90). I agree with sakura- ask her about some chem problems (10:1 there probably are some you really don't understand!), or, if you want to be a bit more forward, ask her if she has a study buddy/group and mention that you were looking for one (hey, if you strike out, you'll still have a study buddy!). In my experience, orgo tends to bring people together. :rolleyes:</p>

<p>As far as the semester being over in a month, aren't you both going to take the second semester of orgo?</p>

<p>Ummmmmmm whats orgo?</p>

<p>Not to sound wired, but facebook is a stalking network... not calling you a stalker or anything. You can find out if A) shes already dating someone, B) what her interests are, C) her schedule(ie to ask to lunch) and D) just about any other crazy info about her. I know I've found people through facebook and messaged them and been like "hey, you're in my --- class! Want to get together and study on Sunday???" and I've been contacted in a similar way by other people.</p>

<p>Impaled: orgo = organic chemistry</p>

<p>"How much does a polar bear weigh??"</p>

<p>Enough to break the ice... :)</p>

<p><em>rimshot</em></p>

<p>:)</p>

<p>ochem>orgo</p>

<p>orgo? we call it ochem here :)</p>

<p>yeah, the facebook thing is definitely helpful. word of advice...don't mention you used it. don't be like "oh hey, i saw you like the movie 'the notebook' on your facebook...me too." that's just pathetic.</p>

<p>instead, find out somethings she likes and smoothly work them into your conversation with her. </p>

<p>i guess the hard part is starting the conversation. just say "hey, you're in my orgo class, right?...My name's _____." then just start *****in about the class, or some project, or some paper, or whatever. </p>

<p>good luck</p>

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Turn it down a few notches. Its a chance to get to know a girl in your class who at first glance you find interesting but whom you know nothing, I repeat nothing.

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A gem in a great post. I was deadly shy when I was younger and thankfully around 19 figured out that sitting staring at someone wasn't really very fulfilling ... my favortie first date was always a casual snake or meal so we could talk and get to know each other; and find out if we wanted to know each other better ... just find an excuse to start the first conversation and just be yourself; she'll let you know if she's interested ... and if she's not that is her loss.</p>

<p>I started this to answer the quote. I have gone on a date with one drop dead gorgeous women (she made men's head turn) ... a bit of a blind date where I had a picture but didn't know her well at all ... hands down the worst date I ever went on; I wanted it to end after 15 minutes. Glad I found out instead of thinking about her physical beauty over a long period of time. </p>

<p>For me, the x-shy one, it's a lot more fun being out and about finding out about people (even if things crash and burn) then sitting on the sidelines wondering.</p>