I applied a month ago and was accepted yesterday to the University of Minnesota. Actually, my scholarship information came yesterday, but I think I still have to receive a seperate acceptance… Anyways, I received a $6500 scholarship which – the hell outta me! I deserve better with all the hard work I’ve done in the past six years…
Anyone else in a similar situation?
<p>is that paid over 4 years or per year? Cause if it's per year that pretty much covers in state tuition.</p>
<p>I am sorry, but my first reaction to your post is that your screen name says a lot. How can you turn your nose up at $6500? If you are in state (you don't say), that is a virtual free ride. You don't "deserve" anything. Scholarships are awards, not entitlements. There are a lot of people who have worked very hard in school, like you claim to, but they wouldnt have the audacity to claim that they "deserve" better. I hope you revisit your attitude, Douche.</p>
<p>I agree with jym626. Totally. If you don't like the scholarship, turn it down so that some deserving, grateful student can get it.</p>
<p>The bottom line is, you don't deserve anything Douche_Nutz. You aren't entitled to more money, nor are you entitled to whine like a little baby (especially since you are instate and this is essentially a free ride)</p>
<p>For God sakes, $6500 is almost 80% of your instate tuition. Cry me a river</p>
<p>To be fair I think it can be difficult when students are comparing awards and may feel their stats were better then someone with higher awards. I do think it is imp to realize what posters above said. Free tuition at your state school is a good saftey net and there are honors programs available as well. My D got a much lesser scholarship at one of her colleges then my S got the year before by 3,000. She was very excited about her award until she heard that but she has put it in perspective. It was just an initial reaction. She later heard from the coach that males tend to get more money as there are more female applicants. Congrats on all your hard work and your scholarship!</p>
<p>Let me first say that I don't consider covering the cost of tuition a full ride. Room and board and various fees account for an extra 8-10 grand. The scholarship I received was half of what the highest scholarship the U of M offers.</p>
<p>I'm sorry for bitching, but I had high expectations. According to all the main criteria that the U of Minnesota uses for evaluating candidates, my stats are at the very top. There are certain programs and awards I've received, and I've had similar or better stats than friends I know who have received $13000 - a full ride - in the past.</p>
<p>Are there any UMTYMP students on here?</p>
<p>Proposed major also factors into your merit aid. Some majors offer far more aid than do other majors. Journalism, business, agriculture and engineering, I think, offer the most lucrative merit aid at Minnesota. Check their web pages. To get the best aid, I think that it helps to have a strong demonstrated interest in a major offering excellent aid. Just saying that you plan to major in the subject isn't enough. The demonstrated interest is important.</p>
<p>Another factor is how difficult it is for the university to recruit students similar to you. The latter doesn't just depend on stats, but also on where you live (I think that applicants from rural areas are favored as are out of state applicants from underrepresented states) and whether you are a URM or first generation college student. If top students from your h.s. routinely go to U Minn., the university might not feel it has to offer big bucks to lure you.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, if you are in Minn. and have strong stats, you probably qualify for some good merit aid offered through local organizations. That might be how to reduce what you have to pay for college.</p>
<p>One last thing: The name that you use here would be something that would turn off many adults. Should you have done anything similar that perhaps your GC or the college adcoms saw (an example would be if the e-mail address you used on your college application was similarly edgy), that could have caused you to get lower merit offers than did your friends. </p>
<p>It's also possible that a U Minn. adcom saw your posts here, figured out who you were, was turned off by your name and then didn't see you as worthy of a higher scholarship offer. The world is much smaller than one might guess, and things that students think are minor may be things that thoroughly turn adults off.</p>
<p>Sorry- Still no sympathy out of me. Room & board, according to U.S.News, is about $5-6K (don't know which campus you are looking at) and books shouldn't be more than $500 or so-- buy them used, from other students, or from Amazon.com and other websites, like my s. did. So yes, maybe your education will cost you $6-7K (if you are in state you won't have airfares to worry about), not $8-10, unless you expect a spending allowance, which I hope you aren't implying. That's pretty darned cheap in my book, and to most of us paying a LOT more than that. And if you have won other programs and awards, don't be greedy, be thankful. I would imagine your family filled out the FAFSA or CSS forms, and perhaps your school calculated your award based in part on that. My s. had very high stats, and was a NM finalist, but based on financial variables, he got only the minimum NM award. Scholarships, even merit based, are often calculated based on need. So yes, stop bitching and say thank you. You sound extremely ungrateful. I am sure you can get a campus job if you would like to reduce your tuition further. Some people do actually have to work and pay their way through college. I am sitting here looking at a $13k+ bill for the second semester tuition alone. My s. won 6 merit-based scholarships, but he applied for all of them and won regional and national awards. He wasn't "entitled" to anything- he earned them. And despite them, we still have big tuition bills to pay. I have never ONCE heard him say it wasn't enough. In fact, we went to a ceremony just today where he was awarded a national award-- "only" $750, but he was honored, not insulted. In fact, he offered to take a job on campus that was an outrageous time committment just to help defray the cost of his tuition. We would rather he put his energies into his studies, but appreciated the offer he made. He will probably get research jobs with faculty, and he will work for his $$, not stand there with his hand out. Sorry-- grow up.</p>
<p>Douche_Nutz, do you attend Apple Valley HS, or a related southern suburban school? ;)</p>
<p>Haha, I didn't really think about the name part... It's just a common nick I use on all the messageboards I sign up. I should have used something else, but having said that, there is no way an adcom could or would come on here and match me up with my application.</p>
<p>I shouldn't have used the word insulted, either. That word was too strong...</p>
<p>Well, the U of M was a safety school of mine, and now there is basically no chance I will attend it.... Extremely high expectations? Yes... Extremely high achievements? Yes...</p>
<p>Wow, jym, you seem to be quite perturbed by my comments. You should realize that I have been working a minumum-to-near minimum wage job for the past three years in anticipation of paying full tuition at a top school in the country with little help from my parents. So, jym, what are the stats of your son?</p>
<p>Ainsley, I'm from SE MN... Rural...</p>
<p>I probably shouldn't say my city or anything else that could make me recognizable after all these comments I've made...</p>
<p>I'm a Northern suburbanite myself...</p>
<p>Even if you are upset with your U of M scholarship, you can always apply for MN State Grants and Federal Pell Grants. There are still plenty of schlolarships available to you, whether through parent's workplace, your school, etc. Good luck.</p>
<p>Believing one is entitled to a scholarship is probably not the attitude you need to have or project. You actually got the second highest possible scholarship amount for Minnesota residents that the university awards (the highest is $12,000 and you can count the total number of those awarded on your fingers). In other words the university did recognize your high achievements and there is no basis to be angry with it.</p>
<p>Did you just apply or did you apply for other scholarships? Many state schools don't offer much for just applying, but if you apply for some of their scholarships you can get more.</p>
<p>"Are there any UMTYMP students on here?" </p>
<p>A few more, I think, and I am an UMTYMP parent. I'm still not sure where my UMTYMP guy is going to apply when the time comes, but it is encouraging to note that a lot of UMTYMP alumni </p>
<p><a href="http://www.itcep.umn.edu/annual/aluminfo.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.itcep.umn.edu/annual/aluminfo.html</a> </p>
<p>go on to "top" schools in math, which is the subject my son is most interested in right now. </p>
<p>Speaking as one Minnesotan to another, I would have to say you need an attitude adjustment. In the part of SE Minnesota where my ancestors from five generations ago are buried, it is considered just plain uncouth to have that kind of entitlement attitude about a reduction in list price on tuition that is paid for by your neighbors' taxes. Yes, everyone should feel free to apply for whatever scholarship and financial aid programs are made available to them, and ALL students at the U. of MN get substantial taxpayer subsidies for their education. But it doesn't cost you anything to be gracious, and being gracious just might make someone think you are more deserving of help than your classmate who is an ingrate. I have every reason to believe that every year the UMTYMP instructors get asked to write a lot of letters of recommendation for UMTYMP students, and I have no reason to believe that they disregard issues of character when writing those letters. Maybe there is a ready explanation there for the level of award you received. Or maybe not. But don't burn bridges before you cross them, and be sure never to miss an opportunity to show gratitude and humility, whether anyone will write to someone else about your behavior or not. They are too few kind people in this world, so every kind person that exists is readily noticed.</p>
<p>I'm in the UMTYMP program, currently Calc II. Best of luck to you mate! You can call the office and negotiate with them regarding this.</p>
<p>My brother told me that everyone who has taken UMTYMP for 4 years is entitled to an automatic 6,500 scholarship, and maybe more. As a matter of fact, that's what he got, a 6,500 scholarship after taking the full 5 year course of UMTYMP. He turned it down and went to Princeton. I suggest you do something similar, because you will get accepted somewhere better than the U of M.</p>
<p>Change name to Gopher_Nutz :D</p>
<p>I agree with Tokenadult and I'm not even a Minnesota taxpayer. Furthermore, your attitude of entitlement is going to screw you over long before you get remotely near anywhere you want to go.</p>
<p>If by some remote chance you don't realize it, you're carrying around a virtual 10' high sign of gold and red neon that says "I am an immature jerk." Think about it.</p>