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They don't have to be picking a fight to be hitting the guy in the first place. It's quite acceptable for girls (or other guys) to slap/hit a guy if the guy did something grossly inappropriate--like if he sexually harassed her or did something really rude to the hitter.
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<p>please define "really rude". If a guy at a table burps and you decide it was loud and rude, does that give you the right to hit him?</p>
<p>This is the way I look at the situation... if it "acceptable" for the girl to hit the guy, then it is also acceptable the other way around.</p>
<p>In a legal sense, two people hitting each other can both be charged with all of the expected repercussions. The Duke Lacrosse case provides some insight. Colin Finnerty was charged with assault in a Washington DC incident where he "air punched" someone. He didn't actually make contact. He was put into a diversion program; otherwise he faced jail time. The Duke Lacrosse case triggered his case being called before the judge again with his freedom basically getting restricted. Of course the Lacrosse was actually bogus so that eventually got resolved.</p>
<p>Getting arrested and charged will go on your record. So will jail time. Why bother with something that can kill potential jobs ten, twenty, thirty years later? This sort of thing is even worse than cheating on your taxes.</p>
<p>I think you summed up the hypocrisy very well. Men hitting women is wrong and, subsequently, women slapping a man should not be considered socially acceptable behavior. Further, all these people advocating serious injury including blows to the jewels, gang beatings, etc... (hookem and others) need to get a reality check. Severly beating someone b/c they slap their girlfriend is completely unwarranted. Now if more serious injury is caused (which my estimation seems somewhat rare), then maybe those more serious actions would be appropriate. But come on, if a guy punches his girlfriend in the arm or throws her on the ground, do we really need to beat him with a crow bar?</p>
<p>With that said, it's interesting to note how often a women will return to an abusive partner. According to the following link, about 50% of women return to the abuser. In addition, the average abused woman will return up to 7 or 8 times before leaving permanently. </p>
<p>"In my opinion, on an unconscious level, a large portion of women actually desire being abused."</p>
<p>I think it would be more accurate to say that some women feel they deserve to be abused. This particularly is true of women who were raised in abusive backgrounds. Parents who abuse their kids tell their kids that their kids' behavior resulted in the "punishment" the parents are giving them. Consequently, the kids become adults who blame themselves if they are abused by a romantic partner.</p>
<p>Victims also rationalize, deny and minimize the abuse that has happened to them. They think it isn't going to occur again, was accidental or that the abuser is contrite and won't do it again. Since physical abuse often is accompanied by verbal abuse and various actions that cause the victim not to judge their own rationality, it can be difficult -- even impossible -- for victims to assess accurately what happened to them.</p>
<p>None of these reasons indicate that the victim wants to be abused.</p>
<p>Those are all very good points. They all can help explain this odd phenomenon. I'll add another: Most abuse occurs in committed relationships which usually have economic attachments involved. The economic repercussions might dissuade many women from leaving abusive relationships.</p>
<p>But, despite these reasons, I still believe some woman actually get an odd pleasure out of being abused. It actually increases their attraction to the abusive male.</p>
<p>I have further analysis to back this up, but I don't feel like divulging it yet.</p>
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please define "really rude". If a guy at a table burps and you decide it was loud and rude, does that give you the right to hit him?
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rude in the sense that what he did was extremely unethical (and perhaps illegal). burping does not count. For example, hitting is justified if the guy stole your iPod. <male-male hitting="" would="" also="" be="" justified,="" not="" just="" female-="">male>. Please don't misconstrue my words.</male-male></p>
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Severly beating someone b/c they slap their girlfriend is completely unwarranted.
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If someone is a domestic abuser, they deserve all the s*** they get. Read: "domestic abuser," not just a one-time 'light' slap. Then again, if I created a universe I'd be a vengeful god.</p>
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Yeah and what does a guy do if his ex had been cheating on him in an embarassing fashion? Slap her across the face? Oh yeah you just sit there and eat your lemons.
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Keep in mind that a slap from a girl would probably just sting and leave a red handprint. A slap from a guy could completely knock her out or break her neck.</p>
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But, despite these reasons, I still believe some woman actually get an odd pleasure out of being abused. It actually increases their attraction to the abusive male.
<p>I'm not saying a guy should ever hit a girl, look at my first comment.</p>
<p>I'm just contending that a girl shouldn't ever hit a guy either.</p>
<p>And I especially take issue with your "would probably just sting and leave a red handprint" comment. An average size girl can knock out an average size guy with a hard enough hit. For some reason, you think you're incapable of causing harm because you have a uterus, and not only that, but you hit much harder because of it too. Yeah, you'll slug a guy hard as a joke, and he'll try to laugh it off b/c what else can he do. I've seen a girl punch her sister once hard cuz she was kinda ****ed, and the sister started weeping (both in college).</p>
<p>You just don't get it. You can easily cause harm with a womens' build. Easily. You won't hear guys say that to you because they'll sound like wusses. But if I had a typical woman's build, I can go up to a guy, jack him in the face, and make him spin out of his godd*mn chair. Hell, if it was socially acceptable for me to jack someone I didn't like in the face, and I knew he couldn't hit back, I might find myself doing it too. But it's disgraceful.</p>
<p>^There should be more people like you good sir. The whole chivalry concept fails so hard.</p>
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One thing that still amazes me is that people admit to criminal behavior or intended criminal behavior on forums. This sort of thing could someday come back to bite you when you're confirmed for the Treasury Secretary position.
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<p>Not really...IP checks dont mean anything because there's always a chance someone else was posting while on your account, or even the possiblity that it was never your IP in the first place. Or you add a "LOL" and you could easily claim that you were being sarcastic. </p>
<p>Unless you're stupid enough to reveal your name on the internet so easily.</p>
<p>I guarantee you I cannot hit as hard as any of my guy friends. Just sayin. I'm not a tiny little girl either, I'm taller than some of them. Girls generally do not have as much upper body strength as guys do.
Not that I'm saying it's okay for anyone to hit anyone. But seriously, do you really think a girl is going to do as much damage as a guy? Have you SEEN the pictures of Rihanna's beat up self?</p>
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I guarantee you I cannot hit as hard as any of my guy friends. Just sayin. I'm not a tiny little girl either, I'm taller than some of them. Girls generally do not have as much upper body strength as guys do.
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<p>Ability to do less damage than the other party does not justify actions.</p>
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I don't really see how damage potential is even relevant. If a skinny guy hits me I'll hit him back as well.
<p>you do know that somebody ould break into your house and if they dont hurt you, and you even slap them you will most likely go to jail for assault.</p>
<p>^So a breaking and entering doesn't offset aggravated assault? (All you lawyer noobs correct me if I'm wrong on this, I cba to study the intricacies)</p>
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Not that I'm saying it's okay for anyone to hit anyone. But seriously, do you really think a girl is going to do as much damage as a guy? Have you SEEN the pictures of Rihanna's beat up self?
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<p>If the girl is HARDER FASTER BETTER STRONGER, absolutely. And in CB's defense, he went crazy right after he found out she gave him the herp. I mean I'd be livid too.</p>
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And in CB's defense, he went crazy right after he found out she gave him the herp. I mean I'd be livid too.
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<p>Judging from the tabloid-style articles I've read that say friends and acquaintances have noticed bruises on Rihanna for awhile before the actual incident, I'd say the abuse was probably ongoing. And being livid about getting an STI generally does not translate into beating someone so bad they're sent to the hospital.</p>
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Ability to do less damage than the other party does not justify actions.
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But it does provide a reason for why a guy should not give an all-out beating to a girl that has slapped him.</p>
<p>And I still think as in male->male violence, some hits are warranted/deserved and should not be returned. If a guy killed someone's sister because of his drunk driving and that person (regardless of gender) got mad at punched the guy in the face, that guy should not punch the person back. The issue isn't gender, it's the reasoning behind the first hit.</p>
^So a breaking and entering doesn't offset aggravated assault? (All you lawyer noobs correct me if I'm wrong on this, I cba to study the intricacies)
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<p>Depends on state, alot of states have laws that unless burglar puts you in serious physical danger you arent allowed to do anything. Numerous people have been held at gunpoint, only having a child, wife or husband come from another room and shoot the burglar. The shooter then goes to jail for life, some have even gotten the death penalty. Hey but thats Liberal America, we give rights and everything else to the scum that don't deserve it. We encourage people to be broke and become criminals its the American way.</p>