<p>There are very few people that are pro-abortion. There are very few people that believe all abortion should be illegal. I don't know many people that don't fall in between.</p>
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<li><p>You believe helping poor people is the responsibility of the government and therefore feel no need to donate to charity.</p></li>
<li><p>You feel the government should do essentially everything for you... As long as they let you get an abortion.</p></li>
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<li>You wonder why republicans are so caught up with that abortion thing.</li>
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<p>Sorry this thread has gotten so off-topic and serious, but I'm interested in your opinions. I think that the way people think about abortion is often affected (effected? I can never remember which) by the fact that somewhere along the line it became tied to the issue of gay rights. I think that many people who will defend gay rights to the end of the earth (like myself) automatically think they "should" somehow be entirely pro-choice too, without giving the issue proper consideration. I think these same people are those who vehemently reject the mixing of church and state (again, like me), and thus oppose governmental interference (ironically an inherently conservative stance) without realizing it is not a only a religious issue, but a moral one. By legalizing abortion, are we implicit in it? I don't know. It's a very uncomfortable idea that I don't think anyone really wants to face.</p>
<p>Because they're both liberal positions. People tend to think that if you have one liberal idea, you must have all liberal ideas. Vice versa is true for conservatives too. </p>
<p>I don't think the idea of abortion is uncomfortable anymore than I think gay rights is an uncomfortable subject. They are both things that have happened since the beginning of "civilization" and will go on until we kill ourselves. </p>
<p>I am pro-choice, but could never bring myself to get an abortion. I am pro-choice because I know that abortion WILL happen either way, and if it is legal then it will at least occur safely in a hospital and not in a back alley with a baseball bat. I am pro-gay rights because I just think it's common sense that ALL people have the SAME rights.</p>
<p>I wish gay rights weren't even an issue. The whole thing is a huge "what the hell?" Let's use our brains, shall we? We all do deserve the same rights. The Jim Crow era is now extremely plausible.</p>
<p>I'm a Christian, and I vehemently oppose the mixing of church and state. Idiotic. Let people make their own decisions, choose their own beliefs.</p>
<p>"We all do deserve the same rights."^
hear, hear. well stated (:</p>
<p>i am pro-choice b/c no one should ever impose their own beliefs on others. like, it really sickens me more than anything else :/ though, personally, i would probably not get one myself.</p>
<p>I'm Catholic and I think that the separation of Church and State is way less strict than some people think. In other words, religion should mix freely with politics if it's the will of the people and doesn't contradict any of the amendments in a literal and direct manner as they were intended at the time -- "establishment of religion" is different from what we think now.</p>
<p>And abortion should be illegal in every situation. No one should use artificial birth control, only NFP (hey, works for my entire extended family...). But we can't all make moral decisions. ;)</p>
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<li>You're ugly.</li>
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<p>-you kill babies in your spare time</p>
<p>and I'd actually consider myself left-leaning, slightly, but that may change soon...</p>
<p>^lol</p>
<p>-After the election, you find yourself with no purpose or direction
-Animals rights are worth fighting for even with rampant human injustice permeating the world
-You think that the rich should pay more because they have more to give, because obviously they would never give to charities that actually distribute aid efficiently
-The idea of smart Republicans/conservatives/religious folks is an alien concept.</p>
<p>Lol, anyone else (besides me) prefer that a couple get an abortion over carrying it to term? I'd like to make it mandatory for pregnant female prison inmates, if I could, that is...</p>
<p>I suppose I'm strongly "pro-abortion," lol. I can hardly think of a scenario in which, were I female and capable of having a child, I would not abort the developing embryo as quickly as I found out about it.</p>
<p>A more sensitive issue would be whether or not the sperm donor can unilaterally abort in the case of a pregnancy, at least during the early stages (soon after fertilization). I say yes -- it seems that something's amiss when the woman has all the say over what is in part the male's sperm.</p>
<p>I would also be fully in favor of allowing men to "symbolically" abort their children and relinquish any legal rights (and legal responsibilities) to them if they so desire, so long as they did not impregnate the woman in question under false pretenses (all this occurring well into the pregnancy). The woman can then literally abort the developing tissue inside her as she wishes.</p>
<p>I'm strongly anti-abortion. </p>
<p>It's not a matter of Democrat or Republican, Conservative or Liberal. I'm an independent moderate. </p>
<p>It's a human life!!! With its own sequence of DNA and consciousness. The only thing that's different between the abortionists and the fetus is that the pro-abortionist's mother didn't decide to abort their ungrateful asses. What about the rights of the unborn? Don't they have just a right to life as anyone?</p>
<h2>It's a human life!!! With its own sequence of DNA and consciousness. The only thing that's different between the abortionists and the fetus is that the pro-abortionist's mother didn't decide to abort their ungrateful asses. What about the rights of the unborn?</h2>
<p>Ding ding ding!!!!</p>
<p>We have a winner!</p>
<p>What about the rights of the uninseminated? Think of all the life condoms prevent.</p>
<p>godd i hope that was a joke...^</p>
<p>yawn, those uninseminated sperm will not definitely become human beings. Not so with a foetus.</p>
<p>Ugh, an abortion debate. I'll reiterate what I said earlier:</p>
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<li> Most people are strongly anti-abortion and wouldn't have one themselves (or as a couple).</li>
<li> Most people don't think it should be illegal, for a variety of reasons.</li>
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<p>Again, it is just plain idiotic to outlaw abortions. If you are pro-life then think about the life of the mother. Abortions are going to happen even if they're illegal, and by making them legal we protect the life of the mother. Plus, most aborted fetuses are going to end up in poverty and/or abuse cycles. You tell me what kind of "life" that is.</p>
<p>Problem, not symptom.</p>